• Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    22 hours ago

    Agreed with your first and second points, crime definitely is a separate discussion, I’m mixed on that.

    Recall that I wrote “…had exhausted its usefulness”, implying it was good, but unlikely to be as effective going forward.

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      22 hours ago

      The police forces are controlled by very right wing people, they don’t put any energy into causes that they don’t like, like loud and reckless driving cars.
      It would be good to make the police forces more responsive to the communities they serve, but the left has no interest. Legalize drugs, make they only available through license sellers…and go after the unauthorized seller very very very hard, because those people don’t care about you, or making Canada better.

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        21 hours ago

        but the left has no interest.

        You mean the centrist liberals right? Progressives are 100% on board with changing the way law enforcement is done, top to bottom. Its a core of their platform.

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          21 hours ago

          Progressives are 100% on board with changing the way law enforcement is done

          The left can’t communicate what it wants law enforcement to be.

          • ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca
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            19 hours ago

            Actually they have. Many times. They mainly want to defund the police and use these funds for other social programs meant to reduce crime overall. Social housing is one of them. Legalizing drugs, sex work, increasing wages to allow people to afford their basic needs like shelter and food, providing better access to mental health services and social workers, etc.

            Conservatives on the other hand want the opposite. They want to defund everything else and give it all to the cops who are just going to beat up and arrest people who are clearly in need of help. Can’t afford shelter? Camp in a park. But that’s illegal. Can’t afford food? Steal it. But that’s illegal. Can’t get mental health? Go in full mental breakdown and use illegal drugs to try and self medicate. But that’s illegal.

            Get the point?

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              7 hours ago

              Defunding the police and using that money legalize all drugs…is an idealist plan that won’t end well. Police reform sure, legalized drugs sure. But some explanation between the two positions needs to be thought through.

              About 10% of society is made up of people that are evil, like to pull wings of flies, kick dogs, laugh at handicapped people. The left has no way of dealing with them.

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            19 hours ago

            Ah I see, its all the out of power progressives fault. Darn those progressives. Powerless and maligned but completely at fault for the abuses of leadership.

            Aslo you frame it as if it was simply a problem of progressives communicating what centrists and the right just somehow cant see, or the centrists and right being willing to listen.

            Could it be the centrists and right know exactly what the problems are and choose not to address them?