I don’t think anyone IV dripping a culture that feeds into a person’s anger is going to going to be happier or feeling a sense of purpose and fulfillment. There’s a difference between just being a gym bro and listening to influencers that make money off of playing into your insecurities.
I question how attached they were to a feminist identity either though if a breakup shook the identity off of them.
Depending on how far out he’s gone, be kinder to him. I have had a few friends who went into the manosphere after their breakups. And, some of them came back. During our chats, one of the things that kept coming back was how easy the manosphere makes it to channel their anger.
For someone in an emotionally vulnerable state, it can get hard to figure out when they moved from, “Fuck her, I want to focus on myself” to “its all women’s fault”.
Tbf, couple of them really kept going deeper into that cesspool and now I have no contact with them 😅, so ymmv.
I’m in a weird state with him currently. See I was going in the opposite trajectory, I used to be one of those atheism-is-my-personality skeptics and a “rational” centrist in high school. Around the same time my brother was going down the pipeline I discovered I was trans and reconnecting with my emotions opened my eyes on a lot of subjects.
He didn’t have an explosive reaction but he insisted I postpone HRT until we “know for sure”. I said he’s welcome to help me explore the topic but I was still doing HRT until I’m convinced otherwise. He never got back to me which just tells me he would’ve dragged his feet and put my transition on pause.
Shortly after that incident I moved to another state for unrelated reasons and he has not once called me. After 2 years I visited my hometown for a week around Christmas and he didn’t even stop by to see me.
To be honest I don’t know if he’s even still manosphere MAGA, I know next to nothing about him since we last spoke. I could make an effort to contact him myself but after not even saying hi during Christmas when he knew I was visiting I don’t know if I even care anymore.
I know we all know what an incel is, but these words are a better descriptor I think If you want folks to come back, and not scare them further down the hole
Could be worse, my older brother had his fiance dump him and he went from feminist democrat to manosphere MAGA.
worse for who, you?
what if he is happier that way? perhaps the manosphere gave him a sense of purpose and fulfillment that was seriously lacking as a feminist democrat?
I don’t think anyone IV dripping a culture that feeds into a person’s anger is going to going to be happier or feeling a sense of purpose and fulfillment. There’s a difference between just being a gym bro and listening to influencers that make money off of playing into your insecurities.
I question how attached they were to a feminist identity either though if a breakup shook the identity off of them.
Cool, i think ID politics is all bullshit and a crutch for mentally unwell people, no matter it’s flavor.
I’ve known plenty of hardcore leftists who became hardcore conservatives, it’s almost as if it wasn’t about the politics but them being a nutjob.
Depending on how far out he’s gone, be kinder to him. I have had a few friends who went into the manosphere after their breakups. And, some of them came back. During our chats, one of the things that kept coming back was how easy the manosphere makes it to channel their anger.
For someone in an emotionally vulnerable state, it can get hard to figure out when they moved from, “Fuck her, I want to focus on myself” to “its all women’s fault”.
Tbf, couple of them really kept going deeper into that cesspool and now I have no contact with them 😅, so ymmv.
I’m in a weird state with him currently. See I was going in the opposite trajectory, I used to be one of those atheism-is-my-personality skeptics and a “rational” centrist in high school. Around the same time my brother was going down the pipeline I discovered I was trans and reconnecting with my emotions opened my eyes on a lot of subjects.
He didn’t have an explosive reaction but he insisted I postpone HRT until we “know for sure”. I said he’s welcome to help me explore the topic but I was still doing HRT until I’m convinced otherwise. He never got back to me which just tells me he would’ve dragged his feet and put my transition on pause.
Shortly after that incident I moved to another state for unrelated reasons and he has not once called me. After 2 years I visited my hometown for a week around Christmas and he didn’t even stop by to see me.
To be honest I don’t know if he’s even still manosphere MAGA, I know next to nothing about him since we last spoke. I could make an effort to contact him myself but after not even saying hi during Christmas when he knew I was visiting I don’t know if I even care anymore.
It’s true, the manosphere can look quite tantalizing when you’ve got no support network.
So after he lost he committed to losing? What would you call someone like that?
an Incel. The manosphere lures them in by making all the problems belong to the woman.
vulnerable, insecure
I know we all know what an incel is, but these words are a better descriptor I think If you want folks to come back, and not scare them further down the hole
They prey on insecurity. I would have been easy prey for those assholes if I was just a bit dumber.
My brother is pretty dumb but very persuasive so he can pass as an “intellectual”. His gateway drug to the manosphere was Jordan Peterson.
Yeah, same. i’d have gone down the pipeline shouldn’t have I watched contra points video on incels
We all make mistakes.
My condolences.
Jesus, he really wanted to prove the Joker right I guess
one bad day?