• Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
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    20 小时前

    Datacenters? Yes, to an extent. They enable things like the modern internet, public goods like Wikipedia, etc.

    AI datacenters? No.

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      70% of the modern internet is bots botting for bots

      i’ll take the drinking water

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          5 years ago sure

          how do you think ai being used today? most ai isnt locally hosted

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            The internet and AI are two different things.

            The internet wasn’t taking your drinking water 5 years ago and it’s not taking it today.

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              lol the internet is 70% bot traffic today

              wanna bet more and more of that is ai driven?

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                You’re missing the point so hard it’s not even funny.

                The datacenters hosting the internet are not the same datacenters hosting AI.

                The ones hosting AI are the problem. Eliminate those, and the ones hosting the internet are fine (although could still convert to greener practices like on-site solar and closed-loop/greywater cooling systems, etc.).

                Eliminate the internet datacenters and the AI corps are still going to destroy the environment, you just won’t have access to wikipedia or the fediverse.

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                  yea no

                  you wanna ignore what is actual reality and play pretend go for it but i’m not interested in hearing about it

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                    They were being nice, but since you insist on persisting in your willfull ignorance: you’re a fucking idiot who does not understand how the internet works nor how data centers are involved with it. Your straw man argument that 70% of the internet are bots is sourced by your ass, from whence you pulled it.

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                    I’m actually telling the facts and you’re the one being detached from reality, but normally people like you are “not interested in hearing about it” anyway, so I’m honestly not surprised you say that.

                    I’m done arguing with you for the same reason I don’t debate climate change deniers.

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                The things using the internet is irrelevant. The fact remains that the internet itself is not taking your drinking water

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                  i’m always amazed how it can be so hard for some people to think beyond whatever is immediately in their face

                  70% of the internet traffic is the fucking internet

                  just because you don’t like that doesn’t matter

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                    Internet traffic is not the internet. Thats like saying cars and trucks are the highway. I can’t believe I have to dumb this down for you, but here goes: T highway is that asphalt thing that sits on the ground between two places, right? And cars and trucks are the things you drive on the highway. So like, in terms of emissions, the highway isn’t producing all those nasty emissions, the cars and trucks are. So if you don’t like those nasty emissions, you can regular the cars and trucks, but the highway isn’t at fault. You could reduce the emissions of the vehicles, replace the cars with more efficient busses, you could even just ride bikes on the highway if you really wanted to. But all these things are separate from the highway itself, see?

                    Just because you don’t understand how any of this works doesn’t change the fact of the matter which is that the internet is not taking your drinking water.