So… it usually significantly lags behind the propietary drivers in terms of up to date features and optimization and newer game support.
That would not be an issue for me I don’t think. I am literally running 2 year old drivers on win11 rn because anything never has been vibe coded by nvidia and my games literally started crashing and my PC would just stop outputing video signal on newer drivers. (went back and it fixed it).
When you say you only ran into timezone issues on ‘fedora’, do you mean standard mainline fedora?
Yeah I meant fedora workstation (44 I think) with Gnome. I had no ikssues with nobara and bazzite apart from bad performance and not liking the way they do updates and some other minor things (mainly preferences not really dealbreaking)
You also say your main use case concern here is WarThunder and Squad 44, the latter I think meaning the WW2 submod of Squad? Or is it actuslly a fully distinct game at this point… I haven’t kept up.
(Ah, apparently it is its own thing now!)
It was a mod for squad that got spun into its own game called Post Scriptum that was then later abandoned, reaquired by offworld, rebranded, handed off to the devs of one of the biggest mods that got officially integrated and now seemingly is abandoned again.
I dunno, what uh… what kinds of frame rate and such differences were you getting on which OS and which gfx settings vs … same gfx settings on Win10 or Win11?
I was using same or lower settings as win11 and getting less than half the frames with really bad stutters. I even ran a little experiment with WT on my laptop. On win10/11 I could run the game at 80 fps on low settings on an intel Iris XE iGPU. The same laptop running fedora 44 and the native linux version of WT (that actually exists surprisingly) could barely run the game on ultra low graphics (old videocard support) at around 50-60fps with inconsistent frametimes and sometimes bad stutters with the game often freezing for 2 seconds upon entering a match.
Ah thank you for the history update on Squad and related things!
Once upon a time, I was one of the first, fairly long term beta testers for Project Reality… waaaaay back when it was just a mod for BF2, before something like half the team formed into OffWorld, made Squad.
I distinctly remember basically reverse engineering one testing session… that dbzao had made a simple character handling mistske that was breaking the entire kit/squad system, before the 0.5 release. Basically, he forgot that player names can have non-alphanumeric characters in them. Any time they did, those players could request infinite numbers of any kit, probably because somewhere, he wasn’t handling strings properly in python.
He screamed curses i did not understand, when he double checked the code and realized that simple mistake had been the last blocker for the 0.5 release, lol.
As to your pc/game performance… you could find and run… some linux distro, that is built around a kernel from around the same time as your last good/stable Nvidia drivers on Windows.
It might be that Nvidia just fundamentally fucked their drivers for older cards, and carried that forward into Linux as well, where with your hardware, its… even more fucked, basically.
Looks like that would be… either R535 ot R550?
Which… I think means that you want to find a Linux distro that is based around v6.15 or lower of the Linux kernel.
Which I think would give you potentially better performing on your hardware distros of:
Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
Debian Stable 12 ‘Bookworm’
Fedora 38, 39, 40
Arch-LTS
Linux Mint 22
PopOS! 22.04 LTS
… there are probably more options than this, there are… /a lot/ of linux distros.
But yeah, unfortunately in your case, most ‘gaming oriented’ distros use a pretty modern Kernel, to be able to support more modern gaming hardware. Some of them may offer a kind of LTS/legacy variant of themselves, but I’m not aware of any off the top of my head.
You having older hardware, but still quite gaming capable… yeah, probably go with one from that list above, and … it might/should work better?
Nvidia will probably yell at you to force you to upgrade your kernel if you just try and do things their ‘normal’ way for their linux drivers… so… you may have to figure out a specific way to get a specific kernel compatible version of the linux drivers installed.
Because if you let the normal Nvidia drivers… jump your kernel to a new version… on an older or LTS distro… that will basicslly break most or all of your OS.
Here’s Nvidia’s extremely user friendly linux driver archive:
Alternatively… you might just try the Nouveau drivers. You having a 30 series GPU… I think Nouveau should work at least decently well, as… their shit works much more reliably on hardware that has been around longer, though you’d likely lose DLSS and FrameGen and such.
Linux:
That would not be an issue for me I don’t think. I am literally running 2 year old drivers on win11 rn because anything never has been vibe coded by nvidia and my games literally started crashing and my PC would just stop outputing video signal on newer drivers. (went back and it fixed it).
Yeah I meant fedora workstation (44 I think) with Gnome. I had no ikssues with nobara and bazzite apart from bad performance and not liking the way they do updates and some other minor things (mainly preferences not really dealbreaking)
(Ah, apparently it is its own thing now!)
It was a mod for squad that got spun into its own game called Post Scriptum that was then later abandoned, reaquired by offworld, rebranded, handed off to the devs of one of the biggest mods that got officially integrated and now seemingly is abandoned again.
I was using same or lower settings as win11 and getting less than half the frames with really bad stutters. I even ran a little experiment with WT on my laptop. On win10/11 I could run the game at 80 fps on low settings on an intel Iris XE iGPU. The same laptop running fedora 44 and the native linux version of WT (that actually exists surprisingly) could barely run the game on ultra low graphics (old videocard support) at around 50-60fps with inconsistent frametimes and sometimes bad stutters with the game often freezing for 2 seconds upon entering a match.
Ah thank you for the history update on Squad and related things!
Once upon a time, I was one of the first, fairly long term beta testers for Project Reality… waaaaay back when it was just a mod for BF2, before something like half the team formed into OffWorld, made Squad.
I distinctly remember basically reverse engineering one testing session… that dbzao had made a simple character handling mistske that was breaking the entire kit/squad system, before the 0.5 release. Basically, he forgot that player names can have non-alphanumeric characters in them. Any time they did, those players could request infinite numbers of any kit, probably because somewhere, he wasn’t handling strings properly in python.
He screamed curses i did not understand, when he double checked the code and realized that simple mistake had been the last blocker for the 0.5 release, lol.
As to your pc/game performance… you could find and run… some linux distro, that is built around a kernel from around the same time as your last good/stable Nvidia drivers on Windows.
It might be that Nvidia just fundamentally fucked their drivers for older cards, and carried that forward into Linux as well, where with your hardware, its… even more fucked, basically.
Looks like that would be… either R535 ot R550?
Which… I think means that you want to find a Linux distro that is based around v6.15 or lower of the Linux kernel.
Which I think would give you potentially better performing on your hardware distros of:
Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
Debian Stable 12 ‘Bookworm’
Fedora 38, 39, 40
Arch-LTS
Linux Mint 22
PopOS! 22.04 LTS
… there are probably more options than this, there are… /a lot/ of linux distros.
But yeah, unfortunately in your case, most ‘gaming oriented’ distros use a pretty modern Kernel, to be able to support more modern gaming hardware. Some of them may offer a kind of LTS/legacy variant of themselves, but I’m not aware of any off the top of my head.
You having older hardware, but still quite gaming capable… yeah, probably go with one from that list above, and … it might/should work better?
Nvidia will probably yell at you to force you to upgrade your kernel if you just try and do things their ‘normal’ way for their linux drivers… so… you may have to figure out a specific way to get a specific kernel compatible version of the linux drivers installed.
Because if you let the normal Nvidia drivers… jump your kernel to a new version… on an older or LTS distro… that will basicslly break most or all of your OS.
Here’s Nvidia’s extremely user friendly linux driver archive:
x86_64:
https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/
Arch64:
https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-aarch64/
Alternatively… you might just try the Nouveau drivers. You having a 30 series GPU… I think Nouveau should work at least decently well, as… their shit works much more reliably on hardware that has been around longer, though you’d likely lose DLSS and FrameGen and such.
Nouveau drivers should work with newer kernels or what? Because honestly I could not give a shit about dlss and such stuff. Pure raster for me please