Imagine being such a perpetually online loser that you closely monitor upvotes and actually spend at least a hour reporting people for upvoting the people they follow when they agree with them?
Dude, we are both internet weirdos. You make multiple accounts and upvote your own comments (looks like it could be in the range of hundreds of times that you did that). That’s a kind of internet weirdness that would never occur to me to do. It’s extremely weird. On the other hand, I dig through the database sometimes if it seems something is sketchy, looking for people who are faking votes to manipulate public opinion on Lemmy. We’re both weird. Own it.
You’re attributing votes from close personal friends that I convinced to move to the fediverse with me as “vote manipulation”. That’s actually sad, dude.
Is it because you can’t imagine having a group of friends? or what? I’d be happy to be your friend if you stopped being so weird!
It is possible, I guess, that you told two close personal friends that you had made a comment on infosec.pub and then within two minutes they had both jumped on and upvoted your comment for you. And, also, one of those users who did that has multiple accounts under their same username on many instances and likes to upvote their own content as a regular feature of their participation.
Personally, I’m more inclined to believe that it’s all alts of you and you just like upvoting your own stuff. For one reason, all these close personal friend users all seem to display a lot of the same features of feeling super-passionate about it being important to talk down Bernie Sanders and how he’s a fake leftist and your superior credentials mean that you don’t support him and no one else on the left should either.
You know, a perfectly sensible political viewpoint, that a lot of close personal friends have.
demesisx is the same person who you are accusing in this thread (demening_casually)? Certainly the usernames are similar.
Or are you just demonstrating that you can produce similar evidence if needed?
“demeaning casually” certainly describes their unacceptable behavior.
You failed to notice that demesisx made some comments at exactly the same time (to the second), which implies automation. That in intake is extremely damning.
Yes, demesisx and demeaning_casually are two alts of the same person. There were some others as well, I think they’ve all been banned at this point. They did the standard Lemmy bad-faith-person behavior of being hostile and obviously dishonest with the admin when the admin went to talk with them about it, at that point without the intention of banning them I don’t think. For as unsuccessful a behavior as that is, it’s pretty popular, I’ve dealt with it multiple times. I think the admin was able to find some more detailed information about it than I was, they caught a bunch of different alts.
The timestamps come from the time that votes get federated, which is often in batches a little bit after they were posted on the origin server. They’re not reliable to the second. If I remember right you’ll see batches of votes even from legitimate users come in all at the same time or within seconds if they’re all on the same instance, and also there tends to be a reliable 30-second cycle on which they all get sent out in those batches. If you look on a scale of minutes, and there tend to be bunched-up votes from apparently different accounts that all are taking the same types of actions, that’s more of a reliable sign of fuckery.
There must have been some confusion about exactly what behavior I was talking about. Here, I filled in some of the details:
https://ponder.cat/post/2417861/2725555
Hope that’s helpful for you.
Imagine being such a perpetually online loser that you closely monitor upvotes and actually spend at least a hour reporting people for upvoting the people they follow when they agree with them?
Dude, we are both internet weirdos. You make multiple accounts and upvote your own comments (looks like it could be in the range of hundreds of times that you did that). That’s a kind of internet weirdness that would never occur to me to do. It’s extremely weird. On the other hand, I dig through the database sometimes if it seems something is sketchy, looking for people who are faking votes to manipulate public opinion on Lemmy. We’re both weird. Own it.
This is so weird.
You’re attributing votes from close personal friends that I convinced to move to the fediverse with me as “vote manipulation”. That’s actually sad, dude.
Is it because you can’t imagine having a group of friends? or what? I’d be happy to be your friend if you stopped being so weird!
It is possible, I guess, that you told two close personal friends that you had made a comment on infosec.pub and then within two minutes they had both jumped on and upvoted your comment for you. And, also, one of those users who did that has multiple accounts under their same username on many instances and likes to upvote their own content as a regular feature of their participation.
Personally, I’m more inclined to believe that it’s all alts of you and you just like upvoting your own stuff. For one reason, all these close personal friend users all seem to display a lot of the same features of feeling super-passionate about it being important to talk down Bernie Sanders and how he’s a fake leftist and your superior credentials mean that you don’t support him and no one else on the left should either.
You know, a perfectly sensible political viewpoint, that a lot of close personal friends have.
demesisx is the same person who you are accusing in this thread (demening_casually)? Certainly the usernames are similar.
Or are you just demonstrating that you can produce similar evidence if needed?
“demeaning casually” certainly describes their unacceptable behavior.
You failed to notice that demesisx made some comments at exactly the same time (to the second), which implies automation. That in intake is extremely damning.
Yes, demesisx and demeaning_casually are two alts of the same person. There were some others as well, I think they’ve all been banned at this point. They did the standard Lemmy bad-faith-person behavior of being hostile and obviously dishonest with the admin when the admin went to talk with them about it, at that point without the intention of banning them I don’t think. For as unsuccessful a behavior as that is, it’s pretty popular, I’ve dealt with it multiple times. I think the admin was able to find some more detailed information about it than I was, they caught a bunch of different alts.
The timestamps come from the time that votes get federated, which is often in batches a little bit after they were posted on the origin server. They’re not reliable to the second. If I remember right you’ll see batches of votes even from legitimate users come in all at the same time or within seconds if they’re all on the same instance, and also there tends to be a reliable 30-second cycle on which they all get sent out in those batches. If you look on a scale of minutes, and there tend to be bunched-up votes from apparently different accounts that all are taking the same types of actions, that’s more of a reliable sign of fuckery.
The batches make sense. Thanks for helping keep Lemmy clean.