As for the hardware, the System76 option has a 16" option in addition to the 14", while FW only has a 13.5" display in their “Pro” chassis (for now, at least). However, FW offers touchscreen on their device. Similar chipset options between the two, but the System76 seems to have soldered RAM (32GB) while FW uses LPCAMM2. The FW has other niceties too, like a haptic touchpad, interchangeable ports (though the System76 has better I/O than most), and customisable elements (international keyboard layouts, colourful bezels, etc.). The System76 laptop has the option to remove WiFi, webcam, and mics from the device for privacy if you needed that.
On the software side, the System76 laptop can come prebuilt with Pop! OS and Ubuntu, while Framework lets you go with either Ubuntu, Windows (ew), or BYO OS, but you can install any OS on either machine.
Speccing out both machines with 32GB/1TB and the Intel Panther Lake X7 chip results in a pretty similar price, with the FW being just under 200 USD above the equivalent System76. I think System76 might be using a slower SSD for their 1TB option though. With 2TB of storage (that are closer in read speeds), the System76 becomes a little more expensive than the FW! Also of note, FW offers a more affordable 16GB RAM option that can later be upgraded, since it’s LPCAMM2. The FW also has a higher end 64GB RAM option if you have a lot of money to burn.
edit: Somebody else also mentioned the System76 is a bit lighter too, which is neat!
Yeah, it is a bit of a bummer. As least it’s 32GB, so more than enough for most people. It doesn’t help that a new FW 13 Pro is very close in price to the System76 option when specced similarly, and FW actually takes the edge with higher storage capacities (+ you can bring your own M.2 if you have one already)
Not to mention the ability to upgrade from an older gen FW and all the other fun bits. Nice of have some competition though, and the Lemur Pro does have some other merits like being a bit lighter and having a 16" (non-touch) screen size option
Of note, Pop! OS is based on Ubuntu, not Arch! You might be thinking of SteamOS
The main differences is the upgradeable memory and customisability of the Framework laptop, and the option for a 16" size in the case of System76 (albeit no touchscreen).
As for the hardware, the System76 option has a 16" option in addition to the 14", while FW only has a 13.5" display in their “Pro” chassis (for now, at least). However, FW offers touchscreen on their device. Similar chipset options between the two, but the System76 seems to have soldered RAM (32GB) while FW uses LPCAMM2. The FW has other niceties too, like a haptic touchpad, interchangeable ports (though the System76 has better I/O than most), and customisable elements (international keyboard layouts, colourful bezels, etc.). The System76 laptop has the option to remove WiFi, webcam, and mics from the device for privacy if you needed that.
On the software side, the System76 laptop can come prebuilt with Pop! OS and Ubuntu, while Framework lets you go with either Ubuntu, Windows (ew), or BYO OS, but you can install any OS on either machine.
Speccing out both machines with 32GB/1TB and the Intel Panther Lake X7 chip results in a pretty similar price, with the FW being just under 200 USD above the equivalent System76. I think System76 might be using a slower SSD for their 1TB option though. With 2TB of storage (that are closer in read speeds), the System76 becomes a little more expensive than the FW! Also of note, FW offers a more affordable 16GB RAM option that can later be upgraded, since it’s LPCAMM2. The FW also has a higher end 64GB RAM option if you have a lot of money to burn.
edit: Somebody else also mentioned the System76 is a bit lighter too, which is neat!
I got a FW13 and I already got the lpcamm2 module, waiting for my motherboard upgrade.
But this peaked my interest and instantly lost it when I hears you said soldered RAM haha. Just not my cup of tea.
Thanks, I think I’ll stick with the upgrade, although I liked the 16 inch idea, but whatever I don’t mind.
Yeah, it is a bit of a bummer. As least it’s 32GB, so more than enough for most people. It doesn’t help that a new FW 13 Pro is very close in price to the System76 option when specced similarly, and FW actually takes the edge with higher storage capacities (+ you can bring your own M.2 if you have one already)
Not to mention the ability to upgrade from an older gen FW and all the other fun bits. Nice of have some competition though, and the Lemur Pro does have some other merits like being a bit lighter and having a 16" (non-touch) screen size option
not the op but thanks for that, now I’m even more confused about which way to go haha Both the FW13Pro and the 76 are on my shortlist
I use LMDE but I like that S76 has its own Arch version. FW has touch which is nice and seems to have decent Mint support
Of note, Pop! OS is based on Ubuntu, not Arch! You might be thinking of SteamOS
The main differences is the upgradeable memory and customisability of the Framework laptop, and the option for a 16" size in the case of System76 (albeit no touchscreen).