• freagle@lemmy.ml
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    If you include probation and parole, you don’t even need to limit it to NATO nations. It’s 300% bigger than anything else. It’s over 300% bigger than the Soviet GULAG system at its height and they were holding Nazis in there.

    Edit: downvoters just hate my instance I guess

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      When you compare it to the labour participation rate population of the US the number is almost 1% of the work force. 99 people have normal jobs and 1 of them is a modern slave.

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        Or without turning some into Nazis. Gangs are prevalent in high-security prisons and often these gangs are racially segregated with the white ones being neo-Nazis. If you’re placed in one of these prisons as a white guy your only options may be either to stay unaffiliated and be outcast and vulnerable to attacks by other prisoners, or join the neo-Nazi gang for protection. It’s fucked up.

        • cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I’ve known a few people who had to do that who were definitely not nazis.

          Its not a good thing to do, but the thing about sitting at the table with Nazis doesn’t really count if you’re shackled to the table.

          Also, not true in every part of the american prison system. Different states differ massively. None of them are pleasant, but like police departments; they all have their local flavor. NYPD doesn’t use gas weapons and makes up for it in other ways, Portland fogs the city, Atlanta are all puppyboys the… I want yo say Dakotas? Those cops generally like water cannons and freezing temps. Chicago is pretty up front about just being the toughest gang, their torturers actually trained the cia’s guys, and the LAPD likes their guns, their operators, their fire, and sometimes just blowing up a neighborhood to keep subversive elements on our toes.

          The prison system is no different. Or rather, as different.