I doubt it, but it’s worth asking.
Liberated systemd is a meme for idiots. I’d be surprised if the fork is even kept up to date by the AI researcher who initially created it, let alone being easily installable on mainstream distros.
Yeah, there’s no point to it. The only thing it does is strip out the birthdate field from the user record. That field was optional to begin with.
Most likely not, just as pretty much all of those kind of forks.
Unless it’s actually breaking something, too few people actually care enough. And in this case, those that know enough to maintain it, know enough to not care.
You can do anything on Linux, as long as you figure out a way to do it.
“liberated” sounds like SystemD is a jail for your system. If that is such of a high value to you not to use SystemD, maybe its time for you to change the distribution maybe? There are dedicated distributions with the alternatives to SystemD in mind, tested carefully and operating optimally. Devuan, AniX and MX Linux are based on Debian. Have a look at https://itsfoss.com/systemd-free-distros/ .
Never heard of liberated systemd, but you can also ditch systemd entirely if you want. At least on Debian; Mint being (indirectly) based on Debian, I bet it’d work there, too.
I have a whole blog post on doing that! https://frost.brightfur.net/blog/ditching-systemd-on-debian/
Expect stuff to break, though (which I cover in the blog post). liberated systemd would be more of a drop-in replacement. Installing it might be a pain in the tail though, because I doubt there’s a package for it.
– Frost
Thanks!
Wouldn’t it make more sense to directly use Devuan distribution instead ripping out and replacing systemd from Debian? Users would have a whole community for support, and dedicated developers and maintainers to keep the system work optimally without systemd, while maintaining what Debian makes great.
Off course for study and learning how to get rid of systemd is a great exercise.
Mostly because a) “use this other random distro” is a bit of a hard sell to people (but so is “rip out the rot inside the heart of your system and then patch up everything that was relying on it”, to be fair), and b) we’ve heard shit about the Devuan devs specifically. I can’t remember what that shit was, though, unfortunately. There’s also AntiX but IIRC it doesn’t offer OpenRC as an easy install option, and MX Linux but I can’t remember whether they do or not and I think they also don’t. But AntiX and MX are both good if you like one of the init systems they offer!
I think I also heard that some of the Devuan devs’ work got folded back into upstream Debian, and there’s a debian-init-diversity mailing list now at the very least. So like, just giving up and going “welp Debian is systemd now, can’t do anything about it” doesn’t sound great to me. Gotta have people actually installing other init systems on Debian if you want usability issues with doing that to be fixed!
– Frost
I wouldn’t put Devuan to a “other random distro” list, and I didn’t heard much bad about it either. But I also wasn’t much into it like you do with your research and providing documentation to achieve that yourself. I personally would probably go Devuan, if I was Debian user and the only thing I would want to change is getting rid of systemd. Unless my further investigation and research finds reasons not to (I did not read anything convincing yet).
And by all means, if someone wants to do it themselves, go for it. You even provide a tutorial / documentation to achieve that. I appreciate and respect that a lot.
I’m not really knowledgeable about Liberated systemd at all. I don’t know of that’s possible, but since this is the same systemd without the field (that field being used in preparation for digital ID), it’s safe to assume that could be odd.
I’d make a backup if this were to be done, and have a Mint live environment in case something’s messed up.
