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  • queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    Yes. Everyone who joins the fediverse has to learn that lemmy.ml is a “communist” Russian propaganda outlet, and it’s surprising to them because Russia isn’t communist and communists don’t support imperial capitalists. It will remain surprising to all new joiners for the foreseeable future.

    Every day that someone joins the fediverse is a day that someone will be surprised to learn that lemmy.ml is a Russian propaganda outlet. The day that stops being a surprise, one of two things will have happened: either the propaganda outlet will have closed, or the propagandists will have won.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      Yup.

      I was about a month into Lemmy before comments made it clear what .ml was. Gotta keep posting so new users know.

      • queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        People explore the fediverse one piece at a time, and at vastly different rates. I started with lemmy.ml, but I am online to the point where my therapist recommended I cut back, and I consume political news like nicotine, so I think I cottoned on relatively quickly. Even so, it still took me some amount of time before it clicked that I was probably browsing a website run by the FSB. A lot of people only join humor or niche topic comms, and/or they may only browse for a few minutes a day (or week), so it might take them a while, if they ever realize at all.

        • Triumph@fedia.io
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          Not to mention that lurkers always outnumber contributors by at least an order of magnitude.

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          I started on lemmyworld instead of ml so have never experienced that instance directly, but i imagine due to federation a lot of people might not even realize that its their own instance putting out the propaganda. As long as the instance admins aren’t blocking a ton of other instances, its not like there’s a huge difference between the content that’s served to the user.

        • Lumidaub@feddit.org
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          Sure. I didn’t say “omg r u stoopid who doesn’t know this?!” did I? I’ve seen OP around enough to be surprised myself at the notion that they may not have encountered tankies.

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            It doesn’t seem like it was their intention to reprimand you, it’s an open discussion after all.

          • queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
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            I didn’t take it that way, I was just answering why someone might be surprised to learn about lemmy.ml even after they’ve been around the block a few times. It’s often taken for granted that beginners will have gaps in their knowledge, but even long-experienced experts will have foundational gaps occasionally that everyone in the domain assumes is universal knowledge. Just the nature of learning about stuff.

              • queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone
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                lol it’s one of the axes I grind everywhere I go. It seems like human nature to believe that expertise is a linear progression and that someone “more expert” should know everything that someone “less expert” knows, plus some. It’s tricky because in casual conversation, that’s likely how it’s going to appear, because experts generally do have a firm grasp of most of the basics. But there are always exceptions, and if you dig deeply and broadly enough, you’ll find them. At least I do, and in many different domains of expertise.

                It’s one of the reasons I detest the idea of “the smartest person in the room”, because there’s never such a thing. Good teams don’t just pick one smartie and let them make all the decisions, they work as a team.