The price is 38% higher than a comparable ASUS laptop. That also doesn’t include Windows. (Which is how I would buy it, but most people would want Windows on it.)
Now let’s say you upgrade it. That’s another $600 for a new motherboard down the road, plus maybe new ram and ssd, but we’ll say it stays on DDR5. That’s $2570 for the laptop and one upgrade, compared to $2460 if you buy two ASUSes. And what do you get for that money?
Framework:
A laptop.
A motherboard with no RAM and no SSD. Maybe you could use it one day if you invest a bunch of money into getting more parts and one of those cases. Then you’ll maybe have a mini PC after you spend a lot more money.
ASUS (or, just normal laptops I guess):
A laptop.
Another whole god damned laptop that you can use for something else or give to a family member or sell or something, because it’s an entire laptop.
I’ve fixed tons of screens on laptops. Generally it’s harder than Framework, true, but it’s not impossible. Even if you have to pay a shop $800 to fix the screen, you’re still coming out cheaper than the Framework.
There’s zero financial reason to buy a Framework, ever. It will not save you any money. That being said, some people want to buy them to support the company, or because they like the repairability/upgradability, and sure, those are valid reasons to buy them. But don’t spread lies saying it will save you money. They are expensive products with mediocre build quality.
Lol, who is the target audience then? It’s certainly not regular people. They will never take apart their computers. The Framework is 100% marketed at tinkerers and DIYers. (It’s literally called the DIY edition when you buy it.)
I’m not a computer repair person. I have repaired my own computers, but that’s not my job. So I’m not sure if that’s what you meant, but no, I’m not a professional repair tech.
I don’t own that ASUS. I own a Framework. I regret buying it. It’s absolutely not worth the extra price. I’ve already had to buy a new battery for it after two years, because they use cheap, shitty parts, despite charging out the nose for them. So yeah, I wish I had just bought an ASUS.
The price isn’t that much more. You can easily compare that.
The price is 38% higher than a comparable ASUS laptop. That also doesn’t include Windows. (Which is how I would buy it, but most people would want Windows on it.)
Now let’s say you upgrade it. That’s another $600 for a new motherboard down the road, plus maybe new ram and ssd, but we’ll say it stays on DDR5. That’s $2570 for the laptop and one upgrade, compared to $2460 if you buy two ASUSes. And what do you get for that money?
Framework:
ASUS (or, just normal laptops I guess):
When your Framework has a problem with the screen, you buy a new screen for 300.
When your ASUS has a problem with the screen, you buy a new laptop. Which isn’t going to be on special at the time.
I’ve fixed tons of screens on laptops. Generally it’s harder than Framework, true, but it’s not impossible. Even if you have to pay a shop $800 to fix the screen, you’re still coming out cheaper than the Framework.
There’s zero financial reason to buy a Framework, ever. It will not save you any money. That being said, some people want to buy them to support the company, or because they like the repairability/upgradability, and sure, those are valid reasons to buy them. But don’t spread lies saying it will save you money. They are expensive products with mediocre build quality.
yeah, computer repair people are not exactly the target audience. Enjoy your ASUS I guess.
Lol, who is the target audience then? It’s certainly not regular people. They will never take apart their computers. The Framework is 100% marketed at tinkerers and DIYers. (It’s literally called the DIY edition when you buy it.)
I’m not a computer repair person. I have repaired my own computers, but that’s not my job. So I’m not sure if that’s what you meant, but no, I’m not a professional repair tech.
I don’t own that ASUS. I own a Framework. I regret buying it. It’s absolutely not worth the extra price. I’ve already had to buy a new battery for it after two years, because they use cheap, shitty parts, despite charging out the nose for them. So yeah, I wish I had just bought an ASUS.
So, sell your framework and buy an ASUS?
I already paid the money for the Framework. They tricked me. They got my money. I already lost.
When it eventually dies, I will not consider another Framework. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me… you can’t get fooled again.
you can sell the Framework. There is quite a large market for used ones, as most of their customers don’t seem to agree with you.