feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets
i’m queer and in seattle so casual nudity is pretty normal here, we even have a whole beach for it! i go tits out at bridge raves and pride and other stuff all the time and nobody cares. and half the time i’m wearing see-through tops with no bra! like… sometimes you’ll be hanging out and some people will just be naked and it’s fine. most of my friends have seen my nudes i post on mastodon! it’s good and fine and okay. it’s only weird if you make it weird
the fediverse/lemmy have a very progressive demographic, but they can also be surprisingly prudish when it comes to anything sex-related, especially when it’s coming from a female perspective.
after being on here for months, i’ve somehow been branded as “the horny poster,” even though most of my posts aren’t explicitly horny or freaky. they’re more observational, almost diaristic, in the way they approach these kinds of topics. for example, i don’t find this post horny or freaky at all.
Especially since I’d wager most of it IS sexual and their fantasy. No one just casually decides it doesn’t bother them and then actively goes out of social norms unless they really want to prove a point or it’s their kink… ergo, they very much do care.
And the wrong glance or stray word and they might fly off the handle accusing you of sexual violence when it was their choice to be casually naked into front of you in the first place.
Looking isn’t violence, of course, but that won’t stop them from accusing you of victim blaming with a sarcastic “wHaT wAs ShE wEaRiNg?”
I’d be uncomfortable in the same way I’d be uncomfortable if someone were to force me to play russian roulette.
See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.
This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.
I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?
This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”
So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?
My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.
What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
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I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
That’s not what this post is about.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
When you’re all comfortable being naked together, and pan/poly while being open with sharing partners… Why casually hang out with clothes on when everyone would rather be naked? Like, what’s the motivation behind it?
That’s not what this post is about, this is obviously about doing it in front of someone who hasn’t been consulted about it and is visibly uncomfortable.
feeling sorry for lots of the people in this thread and their prudish mindsets
i’m queer and in seattle so casual nudity is pretty normal here, we even have a whole beach for it! i go tits out at bridge raves and pride and other stuff all the time and nobody cares. and half the time i’m wearing see-through tops with no bra! like… sometimes you’ll be hanging out and some people will just be naked and it’s fine. most of my friends have seen my nudes i post on mastodon! it’s good and fine and okay. it’s only weird if you make it weird
oh, i’ve always found it kind of funny, actually.
the fediverse/lemmy have a very progressive demographic, but they can also be surprisingly prudish when it comes to anything sex-related, especially when it’s coming from a female perspective.
after being on here for months, i’ve somehow been branded as “the horny poster,” even though most of my posts aren’t explicitly horny or freaky. they’re more observational, almost diaristic, in the way they approach these kinds of topics. for example, i don’t find this post horny or freaky at all.
I’ve never seen you post something that is not related to sex in some way, so yeah you are definetly a horny poster for me.
I don’t mind though.
This post is not about sex though? It’s about nudity.
and don’t even get me started on the “mark this as NSFW, please” police patrolling around here, lmao. (the tamest post you can imagine.)
Ehhhh, I can understand people might hold a pretty large safety margin for “will my boss be OK with this”.
Edit: did some profile stalking. None of that is remotely nsfw, screw those people.
I’m not comfortable with people hanging out naked around me and no amount of your “feeling sorry” is going to change that
Especially since I’d wager most of it IS sexual and their fantasy. No one just casually decides it doesn’t bother them and then actively goes out of social norms unless they really want to prove a point or it’s their kink… ergo, they very much do care.
And the wrong glance or stray word and they might fly off the handle accusing you of sexual violence when it was their choice to be casually naked into front of you in the first place.
Looking isn’t violence, of course, but that won’t stop them from accusing you of victim blaming with a sarcastic “wHaT wAs ShE wEaRiNg?”
I’d be uncomfortable in the same way I’d be uncomfortable if someone were to force me to play russian roulette.
Well why try and shame them for their culture?
See, there’s a difference between “Yeah I’d rather keep my clothes on” rather than telling other people “You should keep your clothes on in your own house with friends who are also comfortable being naked”.
This isn’t at her own house though. Her fling’s friends are around, so chances are it’s at her fling’s house.
I mean what if I as a man were to decide to hang out naked at “a fling’s” house when her friends are over and I didn’t ask any of them if they’d be comfortable with me taking my clothes off? Suddenly the situation seems different, right?
This is just the same old casual minimization of men’s concerns when their boundaries or consent is being violated, because “You’re a man so you should just shut up and enjoy this. Consider yourself lucky to bask in the presence of my feminine nakedness.”
So in the same vain you think it would be acceptable for the protagonist of this meme to start cutting themselves as an act of self-harm infront of other people? Or took a shit in the living room? No matter if it made the observers uncomfortable?
My point is that there are things that make people uncomfortable and they are socially conditioned. There is a line over which you can pass in that you are harming others.
That is an insane comparison. It does not help your argument one bit.
Imagine trying to equate comfortable nudity and accepting one’s body to “YEAH BUT WHAT IF THEY STARTED CUTTING THEMSELVES NOW WHAT!?”
What a weird reach. Just admit you hyper sexualize nudity and get it over with.
Imagine trying to tell everyone else that your culture and belief system is right and others are wrong.
Quite imperialist.
What belief system? I am comfortable being naked. I find other people who are also comfortable being naked. We share being comfortable being naked together. We are not naked in front of others who are not comfortable with themselves or others being naked.
It’s not hard, bro. I’m not gonna drink booze in front of a recovering alcoholic. I’m not going to tell war stories to someone with severe PTSD, and I’m not gonna be naked in front of someone who isn’t in on also being naked.
You do whatever you want to do. I’m not the one judging here. I have a partner who loves being naked and I love being naked with. We have friends who also love being naked who we all spend naked time with.
Maybe google the word “Consent”. It might do you a world of wonders.
I think that is one thing the original post is missing and I am suggesting is necessary.
That’s not what this post is about.
Sounds like something you should tell OP…
No, its kinda weird to casually hang out naked, like what’s the motivation behind it?
When you’re all comfortable being naked together, and pan/poly while being open with sharing partners… Why casually hang out with clothes on when everyone would rather be naked? Like, what’s the motivation behind it?
That’s not what this post is about, this is obviously about doing it in front of someone who hasn’t been consulted about it and is visibly uncomfortable.