• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    No.

    Secure Boot is basically a ‘lock’, on the UEFI.

    UEFI - Shim is basically a ‘lockpick’.

    UEFI is the first step in your computer booting, turning on.

    So, if Secure Boot is supposed to be a ‘lock’, that limits who can access the UEFI … but it turns out that there are many, old, UEFI - Shims, that defeat that ‘lock’… then Secure Boot is not a good ‘lock’.

    I don’t mean to be rude but it seems like there might be a bit of language confusion going on here… In English, a ‘shim’ is a kind of crude/simple tool that can be used to break or bypass some actual physical locks.

    So ‘UEFI-Shim’ basically means ‘a thing that breaks into your UEFI’.

    • Victor@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      I don’t think there’s a language barrier here. I’m fluent in English, and I know what a shim is, both IRL and in the software world. I’ve just not run into it in a boot loader context before. And I’m not really knowledgeable when it comes to secure boot, either. Just trying to understand. 🙂

      Are you sure that’s a good phrasing though, “that breaks into your UEFI”?

      A shim is usually something that you use to add or modify functionality by interception, right? Like a middle-ware, almost. So these old shims, are they responsible for functionality that directly has to do with Secure Boot, or something else?

      If so, they are broken — i.e. not fulfilling their purpose.

      If something else, they are not broken. They are just breaking something else, or making it vulnerable.

      Am I making sense? Does it not make sense? Because after all, I don’t know much about the details of the subject matter. 😁