Bloat can also mean a program that does 1000 things and you use only a few things of it. Or if you have one application that loads ton of stuff into RAM just to watch a video. Another day you load the same application to edit a source code, but it still loads ton of stuff into RAM. That one application in this case is the bloat, even if its used regularly. The threshold of bloat, even if the definition is the same, is also different for every person to person. That adds up to the confusion or misunderstanding.
After the discussions with him, I think he is just trolling (lime!). At one point, his suggestion was no need for an entire operating system, other than the Kernel and a Browser.
I mean… if I use Blender only for sculpting but the whole application loads all of it’s features… I can hardly argue it’s a bloat because the app works as intended. It’s not the applications problem that I don’t use all it’s features. It is a 3D modeler, video editor, image editor, texture editor, etc…
If I for example open Edge and Copilot and OneDrive activate with it and keep pestering me to try them then yes, that’s bloat because I’m getting pestered to use something that is NOT part of the web-browsing experience.
I can agree with you at least that this definition does differ person to person.
I personally couldn’t care less about RAM usage as long as it’s reasonable and have RAM to spare.
That’s your definition. You even say that you don’t care about RAM, but a program hogging lot of RAM while you don’t use all the features is bloat by all definition. Isn’t it? You just don’t care about this sort of bloat. And that’s totally fine. My original reply was to give a reason why someone did not want to install both applications doing basically the same thing. That’s one sort of bloat. You may not care, but the person asked why not install both.
Bloat can also mean a program that does 1000 things and you use only a few things of it. Or if you have one application that loads ton of stuff into RAM just to watch a video. Another day you load the same application to edit a source code, but it still loads ton of stuff into RAM. That one application in this case is the bloat, even if its used regularly. The threshold of bloat, even if the definition is the same, is also different for every person to person. That adds up to the confusion or misunderstanding.
After the discussions with him, I think he is just trolling (lime!). At one point, his suggestion was no need for an entire operating system, other than the Kernel and a Browser.
I mean… if I use Blender only for sculpting but the whole application loads all of it’s features… I can hardly argue it’s a bloat because the app works as intended. It’s not the applications problem that I don’t use all it’s features. It is a 3D modeler, video editor, image editor, texture editor, etc… If I for example open Edge and Copilot and OneDrive activate with it and keep pestering me to try them then yes, that’s bloat because I’m getting pestered to use something that is NOT part of the web-browsing experience.
I can agree with you at least that this definition does differ person to person.
I personally couldn’t care less about RAM usage as long as it’s reasonable and have RAM to spare.
That’s your definition. You even say that you don’t care about RAM, but a program hogging lot of RAM while you don’t use all the features is bloat by all definition. Isn’t it? You just don’t care about this sort of bloat. And that’s totally fine. My original reply was to give a reason why someone did not want to install both applications doing basically the same thing. That’s one sort of bloat. You may not care, but the person asked why not install both.