Makes sense. It’s not uncommon for people who aren’t paying attention to accidentally slam on the gas instead of the brake when they see they’re about to crash. Almost certainly what happened here.
That’s true, and I remember that being a problem in a number of accidents for older drivers, but it sounds like this guy was just trying to drive quickly.
Butler told authorities he had passed out at the wheel. But security camera footage obtained by the NTSB told a different story, and showed the car accelerating through an intersection before leaving the road entirely. Police also found that Butler’s phone had Google searches including the terms “Tesla FSD not aggressive enough 2026” and “Tesla FSD too timid,” raising serious questions about how he was using the system before the crash. Butler has since been charged with manslaughter. The victim’s family has filed a lawsuit against both Butler and Tesla, alleging negligence.
Agreed, I don’t think people who haven’t experienced this can really understand it. I was accelerating into an intersection about to get hit by cross-traffic and when I saw what was inevitably going to happen my body just went rigid, and one of my feet was firmly on the accelerator. Fortunately (or unfortunately?) my car was a manual, and the other foot was firmly on the clutch, because I think I had just started or intended to change gears, so my car just drifted slowly into the intersection while roaring loudly at the rev limiter, and I only got clipped. But if my left foot had not been on the clutch, it probably would’ve been a much worse accident. There was no time for anything resembling a conscious thought. My entire body was instantly reacting, I suppose to brace itself for impact, it was very primal and instinctive. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
It’s because that ev specifically and ev in general have very high acceleration so putting the pedal down to max really moves you forward. It’s a bad match with suddenly taking over after the self driving part.
Maybe a good compromise would be to only allow gentle acceleration in FSD. For full acceleration you need to tap the brake to disengage FSD to allow full acceleration.
Makes sense. It’s not uncommon for people who aren’t paying attention to accidentally slam on the gas instead of the brake when they see they’re about to crash. Almost certainly what happened here.
Driver claims he was unconscious at the time, in case you’re unfamiliar with the details so far.
What an awful defense to what happened.
I hope you mean the driver, because I have no intent of defending anybody here.
Yeah I meant a terrible defense for the driver. “It’s not my fault the car crashed into a house. I was sitting in the driver’s seat unconscious!”
That’s true, and I remember that being a problem in a number of accidents for older drivers, but it sounds like this guy was just trying to drive quickly.
https://www.teslarati.com/ntsb-findings-on-fatal-tesla-crash-tell-a-very-different-story/
Not elderly.
Agreed, I don’t think people who haven’t experienced this can really understand it. I was accelerating into an intersection about to get hit by cross-traffic and when I saw what was inevitably going to happen my body just went rigid, and one of my feet was firmly on the accelerator. Fortunately (or unfortunately?) my car was a manual, and the other foot was firmly on the clutch, because I think I had just started or intended to change gears, so my car just drifted slowly into the intersection while roaring loudly at the rev limiter, and I only got clipped. But if my left foot had not been on the clutch, it probably would’ve been a much worse accident. There was no time for anything resembling a conscious thought. My entire body was instantly reacting, I suppose to brace itself for impact, it was very primal and instinctive. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
It’s because that ev specifically and ev in general have very high acceleration so putting the pedal down to max really moves you forward. It’s a bad match with suddenly taking over after the self driving part.
Maybe a good compromise would be to only allow gentle acceleration in FSD. For full acceleration you need to tap the brake to disengage FSD to allow full acceleration.
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