• ripcord@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      Kias have been good for years.

      They’re rated comparably to Honda, Mazda, Toyota.

      A little lower than Nissan or Lexus

      Way better than BMW, lincoln.

      Hyundai, of course, are similar

      They’re not amazing, but if you think they’re trash you’re stuck in the '90s. Or basing on feels not facts

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        4 hours ago

        The KIA boys disagree. They were cheap crap in the 00s and the 10s and I really doubt their software in the 20s models is any kind of secure. Doubt their power trains will age well either, the Ioniq might be ok for an Ev but I wouldn’t.

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          3 hours ago

          Well, then, you are uneducated.

          I mean, security maybe but that’s an industry problem.

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            3 hours ago

            No. The 10s are garbage. There are a few years of 00s sonatas that were OK if you didn’t get a lemon but trash overall, the Korean Hewlett Packard of car manufacturing.

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      7 hours ago

      I had a Sonata that I drove into the ground over 15 years. Loved it. Only gave up on the car when I got rear-ended and my insurance decided to total the vehicle rather than pay for repairs.