• timestatic@feddit.org
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      Its an ideal we need to strive for. Protect and fight for democracy or lose it. Once you fight disagreements with extrajudicial means the stability erodes for everyone. I don’t care if people call me idealist. If you follow the categorical imperative its pretty clear honestly. You guys just want it the (supposed) easy way. But thats not the proper way. And it also won’t be easy as with violence factions arise. I country in which violence is a normal means to resolve disagreement will arise. You know how Jan 6th rioters wanted to hang Pence? And actually killed officers in service? This type of crooked behavior will also become more common

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        You’re almost there. Fight for democracy. The Nazis are in charge now and they’re fundamentally dismantling our democratic institutions. These CEOs are instrumental in this dismantling, there’s no more peaceful protests that will reverse this course. We’ve fought Nazis before, we’ll do it again.

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          If the tipping point was reached where there is no way to revert with non-violent means then a systematic approach could be logical. But i don’t think that point has been crossed.

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            If, somehow this next midterm election goes well, then maybe there’s a mild chance at a more peaceful methods. I doubt it. It’ll be business as usual in a few years. The next round of fascism will be elected in the next election, another neoliberal supporting genocide will be on the Democratic ticket and another round of madness of fascism ensues. Frankly, the US as a democracy has been officially dead since the Supreme Court gave the president immunity from anything. How can you run a democracy with such power in one person?

            There’s undercover thugs kidnapping and murdering people. There’s a president making $6 million a day from illegal trading. There’s a new focus on domestic left wing “terrorism”. But not a peep from the masses. It’s business as usual, as always.

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          Idealism can be anchored in reality. No principle truly exists unless in the heads of us all. You’re a kid for wanting to kill people over disagreements. Of course I knew you’d at some point insult me personally, I’m on lemmy after all. Most concepts don’t exist in reality, companies and money don’t exist in reality. Countries don’t exist in reality. Except when enough people believe in it it becomes real. But thats above your pay grade. You don’t get it do you? Get lost. I see democracy eroding every fucking day. And I am doing my part to stop it (I obviously can’t save it myself). Again I believe all the words have been spoken. Nothing left to say. Get lost.

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            You talk so fucking confidently for someone so fucking wrong. So many words to defend your tired childish view.

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            It can’t, though. Expecting things to be different from the way they’ve literally always been is idealistic bullshit detached from reality. “Could and should” will never exist, there simply is how things actually work, and things have literally never worked as you claim they do and should.

            Learn some actual history, if you don’t then you will only ever be a piece on their game board of propaganda.