• ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    It depends on the more on what is at stake more than just the ultimatum. Get sober or get out is very different than stop your hobby or get out. No matter how you try to get someone to give up their running club, it’s probably an abusive move.

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      It doesn’t matter though, you’re still a massive asshole in the other person’s mind.

      Even if it’s objectively something positive, like stopping drinking or other destructive behaviors.

      People have to want to change themselves, if they don’t, you’re just being a dick. It’s very different if your partner wants to change habits and lifestyle and asks for your assistance.

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        35 minutes ago

        It’s part of setting boundaries and letting someone know that they exist. You aren’t being a dick of someone chooses meth over a relationship. No one is entitled to a relationship, there are plenty of acceptable reasons that could be ultimatums to end a relationship.