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- technology@lemmy.world
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- technology@lemmy.world
Is there no git hosting service left that isn’t pushing censorship and fascism? I think I should just start self-hosting at this point.
Is there no git hosting service left that isn’t pushing censorship and fascism? I think I should just start self-hosting at this point.
“Reeee, a community vote that says we shouldn’t spend community-donated money hosting pump-and-dump projects that exist to put money in the hands of the wealthy far-right while destroying the environment is authoritarianism!!1 You should be forced to host my trash at your own expense; stop trying to control me, woke moralists! Stop caring about things and help me destroy the world!”
Doesn’t matter if a majority imposes censorship, its still an authoritarian act. Its not worded to ban fraudulent activity, its worded to ban an entire categrory of software.
Guilt by association.
Have a nice day
It’s not censorship you walnut.
I don’t know if the word ‘censorship’ is the one I’d choose, but assuming codeberg is committing ‘censorship’, what’s the problem? Private organisations do that all the time. It’s only illegal for the government. Have you never had a wage job? Every job training I’ve been through included multiple types of self censorship. The difference between it and government censorship is there’s competition in the private market, you can just leave the job if you don’t want to put up with it.
I mean you are right I am just expressing my disappointment with Codeberg and prevailing sentiments on the left.
I think censorship or the blocking of illicit actitivy like fraudulent activity or pump and dump schemes is valid but this proposal has blanket banned an entire field of endeavor.
And I question if the point of it is truely about protecting people or defining in-groups and out-groups and promoting ideological conformism.
Maybe my sarcastic response is an overreaction as responses here seem to indicate but in my opinion its more telling that asking us to self reflect on what the contemporary left is evidently such a taboo.
There’s no ingroup or outgroup here. Cryptocurrency isn’t people, and even cryptocurrency developers are perfectly able to host other projects there.
Community standards exist everywhere. Censorship implies the power to silence people, and in no way is Codeberg able to prevent people from sharing their project widely. They are an intentionally small platform supporting an open internet. This is no different than their long lived restriction on proprietary software. Which is again no different from Debian restricting what goes on their repos.
You can run proprietary cryptocurrency software on your own computer with both Debian and Forgejo (Codeberg’s forge software), but neither project will host it for you.
My point is, who cares if this is part of the community’s reasoning? All communities are defined by common beliefs.
Why do you feel like you can just drop that in without any explanation? Not everything falls into a left-right binary. Open discussions require both sides to be reasonable, you need to provide reasons for your claims, otherwise it’s just noise.
Well, I am part of that community and although it is the majority sentiment it is not something that is shared by everyone.
When I criticize the left I am criticizing from within that group. If you read my comment again you will find it is the replies from others who frame things as a left-right binary. By being of the left and being critical of the left and having a dissenting opinion I am negating that binary.
I think this decision is poorly thought out and authoritarian and I do not like that in our communities.
It is my sentiment, feeling and experience of an increasing demand for ideological conformity, politics of vanity and authoritarian behaviour on the left.
I could do some research for you and provide examples to backup this belief.
Or rather, let us be reasonable. When I critic the left for authoritarianism do you find it to be heedless agitation? When I speak of narcissism and self-aggrandizing behaviour do you yourself see no such evidence of this?
You sure? Like, absolutely sure? Did you check?
All I asked was if you felt it was justified to assume everyone knows why you believe this is leftist. Do you consider yourself a reasonable person? That’s more important to me than anything else you said at the moment.
Yes I am sure. The initial two replies characterise my take as nazi and conservative. They eqaute my perspective as inherently existing within a binary.
Codeberg is a left project in my eyes. Are you of a different opinion? It is an community based non-profit organisation which serves as an alternative for corporate based entities like github.
You initially replied with a tone which implied you were going to be the one to have the reasoned take on things but then take a ridiculing tone when I reply in good faith.
You are free to disagree but you don’t have to be a dick.
This you? First comment in this thread?
I didn’t ask why you believed anticrypto is leftist, I solely asked of you were arguing in good faith, why you believed you were justified asserting things without evidence. I don’t really care about anything else you say until you prove to me you are a reasonable person. Everything else is just noise.
Sorry, someone who’s knowingly funding the neo-Nazi party in Sweden – not because they have no other choice but because they don’t fucking care – doesn’t get a vote on what is and isn’t woke moralizing authoritarianism.
Fuck crypto shills. Fuck neo-Nazis. And fuck you, you whiny little Nazi-funding bitch.
You say in another comment where you refer to me that you find the situation of dissenting opinion immensely funny.
And here like in your other comment you mischaracterize me. You claim to be a democratic but then quite happily want to revoke voting from me because we disagree.
I do not support nazism or fascism. We are both left wing, we are probably broadly in ideological agreement but you make your false claim because its more comfortable for you to fetishize nazis everywhere and make an enemy of your own would-be ally instead of fostering and creating broad coalition on the left that would actually be capable of standing up to the far-right wing elements in our society.
And that is just sad.
An entire category of fraud software that’s used literally only for scams and buying drugs, and isn’t even great for buying drugs.