As a pure emotional outburst? No. As a response to someone who has openly refused to understand or acknowledge their abuse of influence. I can’t blame them. If you want respect you show respect. Which dubs hasn’t been known to do. I’m not going to @ them myself. But they’ve certainly soiled their own reputation.
Had the feature been opt in and transparent would this have been an issue? No. They knew what they were doing and obfuscated this on purpose. Further they’ve been unrepentant regarding it. Taking advantage to more or less be Shadow admin on the servers of those who run the front end.
I have little respect for the way the Lemmy devs run their own server. Among other things. But at least they keep their influence to their echo chamber. Unlike this.
When I get butt hurt by someone’s actions, I can be nasty and childish, and that behaviour should be excused.
Again, it isn’t about respect. It’s about how a person comports themselves in a social structure. You know the whole sinking to their level idea? Where the more you sacrifice your own ethics, your own adherence to some kind of code, the closer you become to whatever it is you’re angry at.
IDGAF what he did, I am a grown ass man. I will always strive to treat others in the way I believe everyone should treat everyone. That’s who I am, and I think that should be the default, not an exception. In life, you may have to take action to protect someone or something, or even to avenge some wrong. It’s up to all of us to decide how we’ll do that, how ugly we’re willing to be to achieve that goal.
What I’m saying is that if you want to talk to the guy, go ahead. Say what you need to say. But don’t resort to that kind of childish, churlish, performative malarkey. Say to that other human being: hey, what you did sucked. I’m angry about that. I don’t believe your explanation has enough weight to counter your poor execution.
I 100% agree with you, attack the ideas, not the man. The idea of a secret filter being applied, whatever the stated intention, is in itself a massive ethical problem. Of course, the person implementing such a filter can and should be shunned, but any overt forms of bullying and harassment are totally counterproductive, as it only serves to bolster the claimed need for such a filter, like you mentioned.
Having said that, I’m not in any way defending what he did. And tbh the memes have been quite funny and mostly on point.
I found it funny that in your text you basically validated every involved side’s actions, be it the Tesseract guy’s list, the people clowning on him, and the stance of the grown ass man. We’re all choosing how far we are willing to go to protect something or somebody, after all.
As a pure emotional outburst? No. As a response to someone who has openly refused to understand or acknowledge their abuse of influence. I can’t blame them. If you want respect you show respect. Which dubs hasn’t been known to do. I’m not going to @ them myself. But they’ve certainly soiled their own reputation.
Had the feature been opt in and transparent would this have been an issue? No. They knew what they were doing and obfuscated this on purpose. Further they’ve been unrepentant regarding it. Taking advantage to more or less be Shadow admin on the servers of those who run the front end.
I have little respect for the way the Lemmy devs run their own server. Among other things. But at least they keep their influence to their echo chamber. Unlike this.
So, to translate your stance:
When I get butt hurt by someone’s actions, I can be nasty and childish, and that behaviour should be excused.
Again, it isn’t about respect. It’s about how a person comports themselves in a social structure. You know the whole sinking to their level idea? Where the more you sacrifice your own ethics, your own adherence to some kind of code, the closer you become to whatever it is you’re angry at.
IDGAF what he did, I am a grown ass man. I will always strive to treat others in the way I believe everyone should treat everyone. That’s who I am, and I think that should be the default, not an exception. In life, you may have to take action to protect someone or something, or even to avenge some wrong. It’s up to all of us to decide how we’ll do that, how ugly we’re willing to be to achieve that goal.
What I’m saying is that if you want to talk to the guy, go ahead. Say what you need to say. But don’t resort to that kind of childish, churlish, performative malarkey. Say to that other human being: hey, what you did sucked. I’m angry about that. I don’t believe your explanation has enough weight to counter your poor execution.
I 100% agree with you, attack the ideas, not the man. The idea of a secret filter being applied, whatever the stated intention, is in itself a massive ethical problem. Of course, the person implementing such a filter can and should be shunned, but any overt forms of bullying and harassment are totally counterproductive, as it only serves to bolster the claimed need for such a filter, like you mentioned.
Having said that, I’m not in any way defending what he did. And tbh the memes have been quite funny and mostly on point.
Hmm, maybe you should start a list and put people’s names on it who don’t conform to your beliefs!
Okay, out of all the tangential silliness thrown at my comment, this approaches absurdity. It makes zero sense based on what was said
You’re propping up straw, and it ain’t even man shaped
I found it funny that in your text you basically validated every involved side’s actions, be it the Tesseract guy’s list, the people clowning on him, and the stance of the grown ass man. We’re all choosing how far we are willing to go to protect something or somebody, after all.