That is the face of no fucks given

That’s a really shitty take.

Man, these days that’s a dangerous pic. Gonna have roving ram gangs knocking down your door

Shit, if that’s all it takes, I’ll go buy a pack of candy cigs and make fun of random groups, see if I get a Netflix special.

I mean, he’s still a douche, but in terms of dark humor, that wasn’t even particularly egregious. Not really funny funny, but at least he managed to construct it better than most of his shit the last ten years or so. Single snort territory, at best.

It’s pinin for the fjords

How’d they fuck you?

Well, this is a borderline YDI

Nobody can tell your intent, only what you say.

And what you said is something that a lot of bigots say to denigrate and belittle the lgbtq+ community. Like, exactly what gets said, calling the string ridiculous as a way to call the community ridiculous.

Now, there are ways to express frustration with lengthy acronyms. It can absolutely be frustrating, and even the people using the longer versions sometimes complain about it. But when you use a dog whistle, even if you aren’t aware it is one, people that are protecting their communities are fully justified in taking action based on that, and it’s up to the person using said dog whistle to justify their use, not the mods’ to justify taking action.

It isn’t power tripping, it is one aspect of exactly what a mod is supposed to do, serve as a bouncer in effect, so that things don’t turn into a nazi bar.

I doubt that you intended it that way, because intending that and then posting here would be so monumentally stupid I can’t believe anyone would do so. But it is still you having done something that merited mod action, hence the borderline YDI.

Fwiw, as frustrating as long acronyms can be to figure out, it isn’t mandatory to use the longer versions. Generally, LGBTQ is going to pass muster most places. Throw the + on there, and I’ve never seen anyone be an asshole about it not being more. Sure, some folks will take an opportunity to bring awareness of the various groups that the + can cover, but it’s generally accepted that Queer covers a lotof territory by itself, and the use of + isn’t ignoring other groups, it’s just preventing things from getting unwieldy.

There’s enough justification for a zero tolerance policy for common dog whistles that I’m confident this isn’t PTB territory at all. While it’s possible the mod in question was overstepping in some way that’s not visible, or wasn’t acting in good faith, it’s a policy a lot of ally spaces have, and plenty of LGBTQ+ communities have. Should have given a reason though

Okay, at this point I’m no longer in doubt that you mean things exactly the way you’re saying them. You’re not acting in good faith, I’m out.

Hope you have a nice rest of the day, but please do leave me out of it

For a false dichotomy to be a false dichotomy, one has to believe that there’s are more than two alternate, opposing (at least partially) possibilities.

As previously stated , I disagree that there are more than two options regarding the state of ai as it currently exists. Ergo, I don’t agree they it is a false dichotomy. It’s just a dichotomy.

You’re free to disagree, that’s okay. However, based on apparent tone, and what seems to be a misunderstanding of intent, I very much doubt that you feel the same way. It would seem I am not free to disagree with your premise. Restating that premise won’t change my mind about my original statement, or the ways I’ve rephrased it so far. Nor will repetition of “orphan crushing machine”. Which, again, you do you, but I ain’t typing that out again and will just refer to it as capitalism, assuming we keep chatting casually. Once shit gets heated, I’m out though, I got too much shit going on in meatspace for that to be even remotely the way I’ll spend my lemmy time.

Proton, being a product run by a capitalist, absolutely would not have taken a different path. It could have, but the non profit that owns a majority of proton chose their CEO, and neither stopped him, nor removed him since. So, back to the would not. They might still reverse course, engage with less problematic standpoints regarding ai (and, again repeating myself, my issue isn’t with ai per se, it’s how it’s being used and mandated by proton leadership). I very seriously doubt that will happen. It isn’t impossible, just very unlikely in light of the CEO still being in place after two different events where he put a giant piece of his foot in his mouth.

Now, regarding ai itself, it doesn’t have to produce slop. Really, it doesn’t. A sufficiently built model will be able to generate a lot of things that are fully functional. Ai isn’t magic. It’s a fancy bit of software. As long as the parameters are built well, and the people building it aren’t chasing profits instead of safe, quality results, it will eventually get to the point that it’s so much faster than and as capable as a human code expert. It isn’t there yet, but at some point it will be.

Since resources are being hogged up by capitalist driven ai, I don’t see it happening in a weedy that’s acceptable without a radical reconstruction of human society. Hence my original comment.

I also disagree with your statement that the goal of proton users is security only. O would even disagree that it’s security as a primary want. I would argue that privacy, when compared to companies like Google/alphabet is the predominant goal of users. Protonmail by itself isn’t that secure. It can’t be because it’s not able to magically make recipients able to read their encrypted email. You can’t mail from proton to gmail encrypted currently. That’s inherently insecure. It is, however, more private so long as you only email people that don’t use privacy hating providers.

Their other products, yeah, I can see those being chosen because they’re more secure. Calendars, data storage, VPN, and password management can all be done in a way that’s more secure than capitalist driven options. I would argue that whether or not proton can be considered secure should determined by their least secure, and most used services. VPN and email are those two, or were last I checked ( back when bitwarden began its flirtation with enshittification, so not long ago overall).

The VPN is up to standard overall. The email is no more or less secure than any other provider that can’t ensure recipients can decrypt messages. That’s the standard I believe is most useful in determining if “secure” is a valid adjective for proton as a company.

Since more people use them for email than anything else, if users really believe they’re more secure, and that’s why they signed up, well, I can’t do anything about that, but I would still disagree that it means the average user “want security”.

Ai was always inevitable. So long as computer science existed, it was going to happen because the entire point of computers is doing things for humans. We built them to crunch numbers faster and more reliably. ENIAC was rudimentary artificial intelligence in the broadest sense of the term. Everything since has been developing to where we are now in terms of the fundamental technology. Pong was rudimentary ai when you played against the computer. So were all the enemies in Mario brothers. So are the mobs in your preferred crpg.

Generative ai was always coming. It’s only going to go away if it is utterly wiped out, in all forms, in a way that prevents humans from being able to start over. Best we can hope for is enough of a revolution to oust the capitalists using it to fuck over everyone else.

Look, I’m not sure why you’re responding here, unless you’re an alt of the person I was responding to. There’s some degree of connection, but it’s a different main thrust.

Yeah, capitalism is the problem. But when it comes to ai, Altman is the poster boy. When it comes to Proton, Yen is literally the person running the company. It’s perfectly okay you use them as specific examples.

As far as it being a false dichotomy, I disagree. It’s the very fact of the “orphan crushing machine” that makes me believe the only way to get a do over is the forcible removal of the people in charge of said machine. Oligarchy don’t give a fuck, and they’re the ones in charge. It’s not like a shift in dominant political party will be a magic wand either; Europe, the us, the uk, and canada are all under the thumb of oligarchs in their dominant parties (with varying degrees of boots on necks) Hell, I think Australia is too, but I’m less familiar with their main parties.

There’s really nowhere in the world right now that isn’t crushed by capitalist assholes. They rule by money, even when not in office themselves. That doesn’t disappear by changing from Republicans to Democrats, or Tories to Labor, or whatever biggest parties are in power (usually entrenched in power because of that money). So I don’t see any realistic scenario that results in corporate AI being eliminated that doesn’t also eliminate the assholes doing the crushing.

Also, I’m not really obligated to cram every single facet of things into one offhand comment. I didn’t talk about fixing things because you can’t fix corporate AI. You have to start over, though from what I’ve been told some of the open source models would mean not having to start entirely from scratch. Since what I was talking about was that, why waste my time? I mean, beyond tangential conversations like this being very slightly less likely. And I say tangential because the comment you responded to was from someone else, and the context was shifted slightly because of their shitty and smug analogy.

For real, people seem to expect things to fit some predetermined format, like comment sections have to be essays or debates to be graded. I made an offhand comment that summed things up in a way that matched my level of interest. You didn’t like, that, and that’s okay. But I don’t owe anyone jack shit. I don’t have to talk about fixing things, nobody does.

If you go back to my initial comment, you may note that it contains the only path to that ending I see as realistic.

Poor analogy.

You can clean up shit. But you can’t cram it back in the dog’s ass. Well, hypothetically, but you’ll be covered in shit and have a very upset dog.

What you can’t clean up is knowledge, ideas. Where a technology to exists, and minds know if it, it can be recreated. Doesn’t matter how hard you try, it’s part of human comprehension. Ai in one form of another has been a goal for decades. You can’t erase that.

All we could do is rebuild it better. Less abusive, more regulations and controls, better planning. And I’m all for that, but it isn’t as simple as your bad analogy makes it seem

Honestly? That kind of shitty thinking is as much a problem as badly instituted ai is. You were so busy trying to pull a gotcha that you couldn’t be bothered to talk to a fellow human being with respect and decency. You know, a very similar way of thinking that makes Sam Altman and Andy Yen such horrible stewards of otherwise good software.

Idgaf about them using AI per se. It is out of the bag, and it ain’t going back in unless everyone throws a revolution to kill the people in charge and destroy every bit of knowledge on how to create it again. That just isn’t happening. And it is possible for good humans to use the technology to craft good programming.

What I do gaf about is the people in charge of proton being assholes, treatingboth their employees and customers like shit, and not even trying to hide their contempt.

Sure, sure, just like I have a choice to either take my beta blocker or deal with all the damage done by high blood pressure. A choice for sure, and isn’t it nice to have access to good doctors and medications so we can choose such things.

But, you’re a lady. Says so right in the name.

That’s not meant in a mocking way. It has to be fucking exhausting to deal with, and I’m sorry you’re dealing with it. You’ll always be a lady to me.

Lmao.

It’s funny because it’s true

You know, I might not be so dismissive and contemptuous of terfs if their bullshit wasn’t so counter feminist and a pure expression of internalized patriarchal misogyny.

Like, fine believe whatever you want, we all have that right but come the fuck on. When you’re parroting bullshit that’s degrading women across the board, just drop the effing F from terF and be what you really are. Have a little integrity and honesty about it. They’re terds, trans exclusionary radical (self) deceivers.

That’s cool as hell!

Enjoy the rest of your high :)

Being real with you, even in a paper printed dictionary, all you have to do is move your eyes to see the word emulsion. But even when a definition refers to a totally different word, turning pages isn’t exactly a high demand task.

This one? It has a link to the root word right there. It’s visible in the screen shot. You don’t even have to turn a page.

That’s lazy lol