• Glemek@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      33 minutes ago

      For real, trade school did me better than most of my peers, but people definitely have some stigma around it for some reason.

  • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    3 hours ago

    I’m going to post this fyi just in case because it’s related.

    Do not use job posting websites to find jobs.

    They just steal your information plus full of scams.

    Here is how you find actual job openings.

    Go to individual company websites and navigate to their “careers” or “join our team” page.

    Yes it’s more work as you have to make a list of companies that have the kind of work you are looking for and then manually go to each of their websites.

    But you are wasting your time using job hosting sites like monster or any of those other ones.

    The posts are made by bots and scammers.

    And less and less legitimate companies use them for that same reason as well.

    If you need ideas for companies , I suggest opening up Google maps and looking around for companies near you and then spread out.

  • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml
    2·
    2 hours ago

    Fucking sick and tired of hearing Americans removed and moan. Yeah, your shitty circumstances are because of your garbage country, do something about it.

  • Waterpumpee@lemmus.orgEnglish
    18·
    5 hours ago

    I have 2 bachelors. Had to do the second because first’s field wasnt hiring by the time i finished. Second now gets automated by AI.

    Basically got hit by 2 historic recessions by the time i finished each.

    I’d strongly emphasize doing trade/care as of now. You hear the troubles the tech ppl have getting hired? I bet 90% of office jobs get automated with having cheap developers + AI.

    Robots which go to ppls homes and repair plumbing or electricity is still 50-200 years away.

    • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one
      6·
      4 hours ago

      I know someone who is in trades, unfortunately it’s not all roses there, either. Only so many electricians are needed. They seem happy to get work when they can get it, but it isn’t always a stable income.

      • Free Trampoline!?@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        2 hours ago

        Mechanic work is still alright. Yeah, the field is saturated, but the pool is like 80% drunks/unreliable. If you’re even mildly responsible and know your way around wrenches and cutting and hacking on steel, you’ll go far. That said, you don’t have far to go. Everyone old either died or quit and the last one is your boss.

        Once you’re in a shop, getting paid, bonding with the crew and settling in, it’s extremely stable. I’m a forklift mechanic at <redacted>, but any experience with any form of truck or carts carries from job to job. The pay is ‘meh’ but it’s enough to live on, buy drugs and a hobby or two. No home or retirement for us, though unless you own a shop.

        so… own a shop?

        Those types of mechanics know everybody or have a group of clients already,… and they can afford property. Who can afford property? They can, apparently. You could do mobile mechanic work and/or do roadside assistance for insurance companies, but there’s hoops to that too.

  • andyburke@fedia.io
    46·
    6 hours ago

    We figured out scarcity 12,000 years ago.

    You can tell because we had time to start writing shit down.

    Everything since then has been the people with mental issues hoarding the resources causing problems instead of sharing like normal humans.

    • andyburke@fedia.io
      19·
      6 hours ago

      In other words, yeah, a job is way more likely to be a useless joke than actually contributing to humanity.

      But you’re supposed to pretend so they can buy another yacht.

  • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
    4·
    4 hours ago

    If you have to pay to go to grad school that’s the school’s way of saying you don’t belong there.

  • phar@lemmy.world
    14·
    6 hours ago

    I mean…when I was 23 I worked shit jobs for a while too until I found an industry I liked. Now I have a good job. But it takes years, they don’t just hand it to you when you graduate undergrad.

    It would be nice if the lower end jobs paid better, that’s the bigger issue. Pay people fair wages.

    • Eq0@literature.cafe
      11·
      6 hours ago

      I’m in my mid-30s. When I was 23 I had a master degree and got offered 2 positions that I hadn’t even applied to - both starting positions with good pay in my chosen field. When my boss was 23 he got offered a professor position at a good uni because he happened to share an office with the guy they were hoping to hire, so they hired him as well (?!). In my parents life time, neither applied to a job and got rejected.

      Times have changed drastically, even from just 10 years ago.

      • Fishy@lemmy.world
        5·
        5 hours ago

        So it’s possible for both things to be true.

        You (and me) had it hard when 23 and harder compared to the boomers (I had to do shitty unpaid internships to get ahead (on top of work not in my industry to support myself) which was a huge gamble looking back). But 10-15 years have passed and it’s even harder now and I couldn’t recommend that pathway to younger people — cause if they’d do an internship, they won’t get recruited 95% of the time. The gamble ain’t worth it.

        • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml
          2·
          1 hour ago

          What would you recommend now? I’m essentially a copy of OP, down to being 23. I think it must be 23-syndrome

      • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
        5·
        6 hours ago

        Yeah, the Boomers give the typical Boomer advice of “just walk in and give the manager a firm handshake” … because for them, in their time, that actually worked.

    • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      4·
      6 hours ago

      Accurate. I didn’t begin building an actual career that paid well until mid-30s. Before that it was “unskilled” (term used loosely) labor and service.

    • TheRealShadeSlimmy@lemmy.world
      8·
      6 hours ago

      I don’t regret my major (music education), even though I’m not using it in my current career. If I had to do it over again though, I think I could have been a good electrician.

      • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one
        5·
        6 hours ago

        It’s really not easy to predict what is going to be needed in the future. I’m trying to tell my kids to be mindful of how industries are progressing and to keep options open as well as trying to building skills needed such as reading comprehension.

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          6 hours ago

          So basically, you’re teaching them to dance like a monkey for the billionaires. We need a general strike so we can be not at the bottom of developed countries for quality of life.