edit with NO WARNING I was banned from the Ukraine community… on my own instance
edit2 a post asking why I was removed and banned was also removed, lol this is pathetic
edit3 after reaching out to @QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz in direct message he immediately chose to accuse me of going off the rails for insight into sopuli.xyz
https://sopuli.xyz/modlog/23366
To be clear, I despise people who are antisemitic, I can’t stand it not only is it an evil ideology it reduces complex problems to “blame the jews!” which I think is stupid as hell on top of being hateful as hell. Judge people for their actions not the religions they warp into justification for their actions.
cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/49833883
**How do these recent comments linked below violate the rule “Rule 3: No Nazis, QAnon or similar”?
No Nazis, QAnon or similar
Locked Post Trump Rejects Zelenskyy’s Patriot Request as Ukraine’s Air Defenses Missed All 28 Russian Missiles
Removed Comment > Don’t try to pretend Iran doesn’t deserve it. Cool so you know that collective punishment is a war crime right? You do understand you just admitted to supporting that casually without realizing that normal people do not think this way right? You aren’t supposed to give the game away that easy lol… What the actual fuck… by supersquirrel reason: r3
Removed Comment So would you consider continually assassinating the Iranians we are trying to make a peace deal with while also repeatedly using peace making processes as bad faith covers for massive bombing campaigns meant to humiliate leadership in Iran that chooses foolishly to respond in good faith to the peace negotiation process… something we just had to do because we are stuck in a war? What a laughable argument. What are you on about? The US and Israel started BOTH recent outbreaks of war against Iran, that is what the facts are. by supersquirrel reason: R3
I demand a specific answer, as well as a reason as mods you chose to silence this discussion instead of weigh in on it. This is an issue DIRECTLY relevant to Ukraine and NOTHING of my criticism of Israel and the US has anything to do with being a Nazi or being antisemitic, I am deeply disappointed in this community.
I take this seriously, I do not like being labelled a Nazi and if you are going to throw that around back up your assertions or stop lazily participating in a narrative of silence around these topics.
Looks like you pissed off a zionist.
I mean at the end of the day is my point is that Ukraine not having any interceptors from allies available to be donated was a situation reached primarily from choices Trump and Netanyahu made, or to broaden the scope a bit, The US Government and Israeli Government made.
To label that Nazi shit is to make two leaps, first that I am doing something here other than pointing out the fact that there is no substantiated evidence that the US and Israel HAD to launch the Iran War when they did, and indeed there is every indication that it was more like a fever dream that had existed for decades until finally the correct set of preconditions came upon Trump and it just… happened…
There is no credible evidence Iran was while under the Iran Nuclear Agreement, pursuing a nuclear weapons program, or more broadly that such a tack towards clandestine military escalation was the correct way to go as a country independent of how much someone hated the US as an Iranian, the strategic conditions clearly pointed towards integrating Iran into the global order more and more and de-emphasizing the “regime” aspect of Iran in favor of engaging more granularly with the Iranian people as a whole.
For Iranians no matter what they felt about the government, it was abundantly clear to them that jumping through silly hoops for the US was worth it if it meant being normalized on the global stage as a nation.
So to then turn around and say all of that is irrelevant and makes me a Nazi or insane conspiracy theorist to bring up when you pan the camera to Ukraine which VERY MUCH WAS NOT GIVEN A CHOICE in starting the Ukraine War proper in 2022 (or wherever you want to draw the line). Russia has been rolling tanks into Ukraine on an industrial scale for years now, and Ukrainians more than anything would have loved it to be long over by now so they wouldn’t need the interceptors/Patriots in the first place.
To summarize, it is dangerous to be overly reductive here, it leads to people misidentifying someone who absolutely despises antisemitism and who finds every person they have ever met who harbored antisemitism disgusting and weird… as an antisemite themselves…
Unnecessary war endangers jews just the same as it endangers muslims, christians, hindus, atheists and people living within and without Israel who simply want to live a peaceful life…
Ukraine and Israel are de facto allies, more evidently in the last days when Ukraine hit Iranian ships . If you criticise one, you bother both especially in that comm. If you think Israel is not defending itself, you might think also Ukraine is not totally just defending itself and this idea might be unwelcome.
says who??
Sorry I’m lazy link
What nonsense is that website? How is this even a “fact” in the traditional sense either way?
edit specifically see this article I posted a week ago for why your source is so potentially problematic and biased.
https://piefed.iridescent.nz/c/fediverse_vs_disinfo@lemmy.dbzer0.com/p/65205/israel-is-paying-millions-to-train-ai-chatbots-how-to-talk-about-gaza-it-s-worki
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-brad-parscale-ai-chatbots-gaza
Yes but there are also the sources, you can read them, from the Kiev post to Jerusalem post to AP. I didn’t say it’s a fact, I said “de facto” meaning it’s not officially like this but in practice yes.
It is really the opposite. Both pretend to be ally but in reality Israel voted against calling the russian invassion an agression, have history of collaborsting with russia and have zero sanctions on russia
All the more reason to make your reasoning specific then.
“in practice” in what way?
Like Ukraine shooting down Iranian ships. Did you read the sources?