PTB. The ban and comment removals can not be justified. Only a profoundly evil person would consider any of those comments problematic.

https://lemmyverse.link/sopuli.xyz/post/49912728

@Burstar@sopuli.xyz is refusing to engage with discussion on the moderation actions on the community. I think they’re pretty quick to remove comments & hand out bans. They’ve removed my posts in the past as duplicates when they were not, but they did restore them when I messaged them to point it out. Burstar, would you please explain the moderation reasoning?

!ukraine@sopuli.xyz is in an interesting (bad) place right now, i think. i was accused there of calling for a genocide against russians when i was actually trying to discourage another user, who expressed fascist tendencies elsewhere on the net, from encouraging exactly that while ALSO not suggesting that Ukrainians don’t have a right to resistance. another admin around here was also banned for posting an analysis of how russian propaganda mechanisms work to manufacture consent to continue their illegal invasion, with the mod saying that this was sympathy for russia.

i am empathetic to that maintaining a community about Ukraine and centering Ukrainian perspectives is hard, nearing impossible, right now. i would even go so far as to say that the moderation team there is doing a fair to good job, and that those challenges are compounded by the prevalence of people on the threadiverse who take an unnuanced “anything the US does, i take the opposite position.” however, in cases like these i think they hit a wrongheaded position, leading me to conclude with a mixture of CLM and PTB.

the world outside our little digital network here is filled with shades and colors that are not conducive to black and white thinking. the Ukrainians i talk to want, first and foremost, to exist in a state of freedom where there is peace and justice. they however feel that given their standing within the world economic order, that means finding safe haven amongst one of the three northern imperiums. for over a century, that meant alignment with russia. following the murder of Georgiy Gongadze, this was no longer viewed as a position that could be sustained. thus began a process finding alignment with another northern power, the US, the EU, and NATO. this arrangement has not been ideal, or even at all times favorable, but it was the path the people i talk to felt gave them the most chance at eventually finding some degree of independence from any of the northern empires.

i think you are QUITE right to assess Ukraine’s position in priority alongside israel and Iran. many of the people in the Black Sea Basin and southwest Asia view these as deeply interrelated world events, with the US’s support for Ukraine vastly drying up as it shifted its focus to helping israel conduct a higher degree of genocide in Gaza, and evaporating entirely to conduct a war of choice against Iran. that Ukraine’s government aligns itself with israel and against Iran is not a universally popular position, and is with the people i talk to seen as an expedient for short term survival that must be adjusted for in the long term.

idk how to wrap up this long rambly comment.

i guess just All Power to All the Motherfuckin’ People

Seems like a Zionist mod, maybe even a Zionist instance if they’re citing server rules. Though they seem vague enough that they’re probably just using them as a shield.

@QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz What’s your input on this as a server admin.

Looks like you pissed off a zionist.

Trying to wrap my head around how that rule was chosen. I can’t see any way to twist it around to fit.

I could see arguments about it being off topic for the community, I could see it maybe fitting rule 1 if you stretched that one far enough, at least the first comment you quoted here. But it would be a stretch because while the tone is aggro, it’s still phrased well enough to go after ideas more than people, so I’m struggling to see that.

Which leaves me at PTB. I can’t see any justification for the rule they used at all, nor any other rule applying enough to think they maybe just hit the wrong key and it was supposed to be a different rule number. That’s the only possible way I could see it being anything other than PTB, and it would still point to some poor quality moderation

Edit: dug a little deeper, and I am fully PTB on this, no doubts or maybes. It’s a blatant suppression of a stance the mod disagrees with, but isn’t in the rules in any way good sense can connect. The comments OP was responding to in the quoted segments in this post were most definitely aligned with a specific stance, and OP’s responses matched the tone of them well within reasonable limits. That means that only removing one side of the discussion shows a bias that can’t be supported by established rules.

Which, in terms of PTB, having shitty rules still doesn’t make it okay to ignore them, that’s why we can block communities and urge change via admins. But they didn’t even bother to include their particular beliefs as a rule so that everyone knows going in what the line is. That means it’s personal and not applied evenly.

Sorry you got hit by the PTB hammer there squirrel, sopuli is usually the least PTB prone instance I’ve run across, so it’s on the shocking side for me. Shocking enough that if I were on that instance, I’d be messaging admins about it because I know that’s not how they roll

PTB. Fuck anybody who support the illegal war on iran and still defend israel. The same israel that was involved in this war that reduced the number defense system that ukraine need to defend themselves , the same israel who has good relation with russia, the same israel who voted against un resolution condemning russian agression on ukraine, rhe same isrsel who has no sanctions on russia

qanon is delusional, thinking normal people don’t support war crimes is also delusional.

You didn’t get the memo?

The term Nazi has been so diluted that it can mean anything the mods want it to mean.