edit with NO WARNING I was banned from the Ukraine community… on my own instance

edit2 a post asking why I was removed and banned was also removed, lol this is pathetic

edit3 after reaching out to @QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz in direct message he immediately chose to accuse me of going off the rails for insight into sopuli.xyz

https://sopuli.xyz/modlog/23366

To be clear, I despise people who are antisemitic, I can’t stand it not only is it an evil ideology it reduces complex problems to “blame the jews!” which I think is stupid as hell on top of being hateful as hell. Judge people for their actions not the religions they warp into justification for their actions.

cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/49833883

**How do these recent comments linked below violate the rule “Rule 3: No Nazis, QAnon or similar”?

No Nazis, QAnon or similar

Locked Post Trump Rejects Zelenskyy’s Patriot Request as Ukraine’s Air Defenses Missed All 28 Russian Missiles

Removed Comment > Don’t try to pretend Iran doesn’t deserve it. Cool so you know that collective punishment is a war crime right? You do understand you just admitted to supporting that casually without realizing that normal people do not think this way right? You aren’t supposed to give the game away that easy lol… What the actual fuck… by supersquirrel reason: r3

Removed Comment So would you consider continually assassinating the Iranians we are trying to make a peace deal with while also repeatedly using peace making processes as bad faith covers for massive bombing campaigns meant to humiliate leadership in Iran that chooses foolishly to respond in good faith to the peace negotiation process… something we just had to do because we are stuck in a war? What a laughable argument. What are you on about? The US and Israel started BOTH recent outbreaks of war against Iran, that is what the facts are. by supersquirrel reason: R3

I demand a specific answer, as well as a reason as mods you chose to silence this discussion instead of weigh in on it. This is an issue DIRECTLY relevant to Ukraine and NOTHING of my criticism of Israel and the US has anything to do with being a Nazi or being antisemitic, I am deeply disappointed in this community.

I take this seriously, I do not like being labelled a Nazi and if you are going to throw that around back up your assertions or stop lazily participating in a narrative of silence around these topics.

https://sopuli.xyz/modlog/23366

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    7·
    2 days ago

    Trying to wrap my head around how that rule was chosen. I can’t see any way to twist it around to fit.

    I could see arguments about it being off topic for the community, I could see it maybe fitting rule 1 if you stretched that one far enough, at least the first comment you quoted here. But it would be a stretch because while the tone is aggro, it’s still phrased well enough to go after ideas more than people, so I’m struggling to see that.

    Which leaves me at PTB. I can’t see any justification for the rule they used at all, nor any other rule applying enough to think they maybe just hit the wrong key and it was supposed to be a different rule number. That’s the only possible way I could see it being anything other than PTB, and it would still point to some poor quality moderation

    Edit: dug a little deeper, and I am fully PTB on this, no doubts or maybes. It’s a blatant suppression of a stance the mod disagrees with, but isn’t in the rules in any way good sense can connect. The comments OP was responding to in the quoted segments in this post were most definitely aligned with a specific stance, and OP’s responses matched the tone of them well within reasonable limits. That means that only removing one side of the discussion shows a bias that can’t be supported by established rules.

    Which, in terms of PTB, having shitty rules still doesn’t make it okay to ignore them, that’s why we can block communities and urge change via admins. But they didn’t even bother to include their particular beliefs as a rule so that everyone knows going in what the line is. That means it’s personal and not applied evenly.

    Sorry you got hit by the PTB hammer there squirrel, sopuli is usually the least PTB prone instance I’ve run across, so it’s on the shocking side for me. Shocking enough that if I were on that instance, I’d be messaging admins about it because I know that’s not how they roll