Use of single-sex toilets, changing rooms and hospital wards in England, Scotland and Wales is now restricted according to a person’s birth sex, rather than the gender with which they identify.

  • PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au
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    Trans women are women (except when they’re puppies, which is shockingly often. Then they’re bitches), but gender segregated restrooms are inefficient. You can skip the whole issue and undercut the basis of that nonsense transphobia.

    Because gendered restrooms are bullshit inefficiency to start with.

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      Ok. Then go have your crusade and leave trans people out of it. I just don’t like seeing our civil rights being made contingent on massive change to the social structure that very few people would be down with.

      It’s like those yahoos who say, “we wouldn’t have all these problems with trans acceptance if we just abolished gender!”

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        very few people

        Nobody complains anywhere I’ve seen them, including at the local queer spaces. It turns out they’re also the only solution for non-binary people, who I’m sure you care about very much.

        we wouldn’t

        Technically true, but that’s not why they’re saying it and that’s a slightly bigger ask than ‘think no differently in the immediate term, remove some signs’. If these people cared what you fucking wanted and responded to rational arguments this would never have been a problem in the first place, but you’re still Jere asking them to think differently/at all.

        I just want this big thing that the chuds all hate that’s an entirely fake culture war issue none of them gave a single shit about 20 years ago, not this big thing that is just removing some signs and would make everyone’s lives and building use very very slightly more efficient and requires no ideological surrender or identity damage while neutralizing a key terrain if struggle in my favor.

        That’s what you sound like here. You’re panicking and screaming about the things your lying liar opponents say rather than trying to think strategically about what actually effects the ways they behave.

        We are on the edge of god damn war with unthinking rage fueled privilege monsters and you’re still trying to batter them with your ego and ‘what I want’. No subtlety no manipulation no strategy not even ‘I want it all, surrender not an inch’. Just tantrum.

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          Nobody complains anywhere I’ve seen them, including at the local queer spaces. It turns out they’re also the only solution for non-binary people, who I’m sure you care about very much.

          We’re not talking about having gender-neutral bathrooms. We’re talking about ONLY having gender neutral bathrooms. If you think the broad society is going to accept only having gender neutral bathrooms, you’re delusional.