It was not truly ready for end users until the latest years but was shipped despite. It also broke some kinds (I mean a lot of) software, I cannot imagine how many lines of code had to be rewritten because of Wayland. And it also lacks screensavers. And is more resource-demanding.
It simply looks cool. If screensavers are redundant, then LED keyboards, animated wallpapers, and a lot of other common things are as well.
Weird how people downvote my comment with obvious and objective reasons why people dislike Wayland, as if I personally hated Wayland. Why does shit like Wayland vs X11 become some kind of religion?
There is no way to get a real screensaver work, prove me wrong.
And no one cares if it is the protocol or the implementation. It just works worse than X11 on modest hardware, and people dislike it.
no one cares if it’s the protocol or the implementation. it just works worse than x11 on modest hardware
Actually, people that are not hell bent on using x11 do care… That is because the protocol is inherently more efficient than x11, and the compositor matters.
So if you try to run kwin or mutter, there’s no doubt they are going to be more demanding than a plain xorg server (but not more than xorg+KDE or xorg+gnome). But if you try to use a compositor made for low hardware like labwc, it’s gonna run laps around xorg.
And you can even use labwc on lxqt, so you get your familiar desktop environment but with a modern Wayland compositor.
Just try it. Dig up an old intel atom netbook and see if you prefer using xorg or labwc
The old machines I have are that old, that they barely get along with LXQt (X11 if I memory serves), and my main one can even stand KDE (with Wayland ofc)
Well, try lxqt+labwc. You’ll need to set it up, but if you are already willing to tinker with xorg in that machine it won’t throw you off too much. You’ll be pleased with the result
It was not truly ready for end users until the latest years but was shipped despite. It also broke some kinds (I mean a lot of) software, I cannot imagine how many lines of code had to be rewritten because of Wayland. And it also lacks screensavers. And is more resource-demanding.
Now, I like a good screensaver but I don’t think that’s useful to anyone without a CRT.
It simply looks cool. If screensavers are redundant, then LED keyboards, animated wallpapers, and a lot of other common things are as well.
Weird how people downvote my comment with obvious and objective reasons why people dislike Wayland, as if I personally hated Wayland. Why does shit like Wayland vs X11 become some kind of religion?
You might be getting down voted because of your claim that it doesn’t have screensavers, which is just flat out wrong.
Behold, a screensaver on Wayland:
It does not lack screensavers and there is no reason it has to be more demanding. The protocol isn’t more demanding, the implementations are
There is no way to get a real screensaver work, prove me wrong. And no one cares if it is the protocol or the implementation. It just works worse than X11 on modest hardware, and people dislike it.
Ok
Sauce?
My desktop sitting right in front of me.
Why do you want a screensaver in 2026? Who still uses them.
Cuz I like them. And many people do. They’re beautiful and have been around for decades, why deprecating them now?
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Mint-Wayland-Screensaver
It was never impossible or difficult it’s just nobody bothered because screensavers are actually bad.
Not all implementations are slower, only certain ones.
Actually, people that are not hell bent on using x11 do care… That is because the protocol is inherently more efficient than x11, and the compositor matters.
So if you try to run kwin or mutter, there’s no doubt they are going to be more demanding than a plain xorg server (but not more than xorg+KDE or xorg+gnome). But if you try to use a compositor made for low hardware like labwc, it’s gonna run laps around xorg. And you can even use labwc on lxqt, so you get your familiar desktop environment but with a modern Wayland compositor.
Just try it. Dig up an old intel atom netbook and see if you prefer using xorg or labwc
The old machines I have are that old, that they barely get along with LXQt (X11 if I memory serves), and my main one can even stand KDE (with Wayland ofc)
Well, try lxqt+labwc. You’ll need to set it up, but if you are already willing to tinker with xorg in that machine it won’t throw you off too much. You’ll be pleased with the result