
PyLova (Python+Pavlova) is a soft fork of PieFed, aimed at improving the user experience through UI overhauls, empowering users and admins with agency, improved administration and moderation functions, and general bug fixing.
New in V0.3.0
For Users
- New ‘Look & Feel’ tab in settings, for customising your user experience.
- In comment video uploading and posting (counts towards files quota).
- Updated ‘Files’ page, allowing mass deletion of uploaded media.
For Moderators
- Can set default tags for communities, that auto-fill into new posts on community. Enabling greater discover-ability across the Fediverse.
For Admins
- New ‘Look & Feel’ tab in settings, to help with managing the visual style of your instance.
- Ability to view a users deleted posts and downvotes alongside their upvotes.
- New ‘Rules’ sidebar panel to display instance rules.
And More
- Themes can support sub-colour schemes.
- New User setup page is condensed into one, offering options for setting pronouns and bio.
- Alt text (aria label) for video uploads.
- Consistent markdown editor.
- Musk/Trump filter reworked to a ‘low politics’ filter.
- Hard-coded musk/trump filter removed for users who are not signed in.
- Thanks to @Dialectical_Specialist@quokk.au, Lichess boards are supported to display.
- Updated documentation by @quill7513@anarchist.nexus.
- Updated docker example by @tenchiken@anarchist.nexus.
- Visual changes to posts, tags displayed under title and titles now serve as hyperlink.
- Fix with API, images posts no longer upload against image quota and send as image type posts enabling to display correctly on Lemmy.
- Collapse-able sidebar cards.
- Sorting (hot/new/local/all) is managed by drop-downs to maintain consistency.
- Removal of ‘Rational Discourse’ sidebar.
- Minor fixes & changes.


Yes that - the second one, as shown in your image - is what I mean. Lemmy offers the option to show upvotes separately from (& adjacent to) downvotes. PieFed’s tooltip approach fails to work for me something like a fifth of the time, at least on PieFed.social. At least a third of the time it will not work even if I click the number >10 times at varying cadence, although most of the time then if I zoom in and carefully hit precisely the number rather than the general area it is in it will work. Ofc that could be coincidence like a server connection issue that manages to work upon subsequent clicks regardless of how I approached hitting the number.
Regarding showing who delivers the downvotes - that can be quite useful sometimes as well. I just had a serial downvoter go through every comment that I had made recently, across a wide swath of communities from memes to Fediverse matters and news and politics etc. - ironically they had never once posted and only made 3 comments in I think it was 3 years, yet they had downvoted people sth like 20k times and only upvoted iirc <3k total, so I seriously doubt that I was the only one that happened to. I want negative feedback the same as I want positive ones, but like… delivered as an adult, using words (at which point others piling them on only adds assent & therefore weight to that spoken position), not this childish “I don’t like your politics so I am going to downvote everything you’ve said for days, without even telling you why”.
Voting really is an imbalance of power if someone can do things like that, but the recipients have no power to block it. It has a chilling effect upon social media bc people will either speak less often, knowing they will receive those, or else grow such a thick skin that even a veritable flood of downvotes affects them not in the slightest. I don’t like either of those options.
Though I suppose there is an argument that people could too casually block others for offering downvotes… or something? Honestly I don’t quite understand that - anyone can find out who it is, with just a little bit of effort (e.g. I could make a post in a community that I moderate, so then when my serial downvoter strikes then as a mod I can see who they are, even if not as a user; or ultimately if I installed my own server then I could casually inspect the votes of everyone on every post or comment everywhere), this information is not “private” and there seems little reason to not place tools into people’s hands to balance out this otherwise inequitable relationship?
But anyway I’m not pushing for it - I just hate to see how like powerful people (e.g. jordanlund) have all this ability to see and do things (e.g. see people who downvote and block them), but what can the common person do? Although some of this seems to be based on the misunderstanding that accounts that you have specifically blocked cannot still vote on your content, whereas now I think that they can. There seems nothing that can be done about that.
Btw Mbin shows who offers (links given for a randomly chosen example post): upvotes aka favorites, separately also Increases, now seemingly called Boosts, but will only show the total count but not who offered them for Reduces (I don’t know if a mod can see these, obviously an admin could but I don’t know whether via this same interface).
The Lemmy method sounds pretty simple to add. I’ve put it on my to-do list for the next release, so I’ll probably do it over the weekend.
On the second half, it’s a complex issue. From what I’ve seen the majority of Threadiverse users are extremely against seeing this information and feel like it can lead to I guess … revenge against users who downvote. But like your example shows, there can be harm in those sort of mass-downvoters. I originally started with Kbin myself, so I don’t mind the option myself but I am also wanting this to cater to a broader userbase, and the general consensus I’ve seen is ‘don’t make it public’. I’ll have to give this some greater thought before I touch it sorry.
The Lemmy way: yay!
The second half: yes I understand and agree - it’s a rather complicated issue, which can go both ways. Perhaps it can be something left to the admin to decide whether to enable vs. not? They can see all votes themselves in any case. In general I am not a fan of restricting people’s abilities “for their own good”, which seems in line with the spirit of PyLova, but in any case I definitely understand that it needs thinking about first bc it does run against the grain of what PieFed has done so far.
Thanks for talking about it with me.:-)