They’re talking about being treated better for a shitty reason and watching others who need that treatment not get it because they suck less. I don’t think that’s shoot&cry. I’ve had that feeling without ever working for the state.
They’re talking about being treated better for a shitty reason and watching others who need that treatment not get it because they suck less.
It’s not just that single part of that single comment completely isolated from context. Like yes, if the quoted part was the only thing this user ever said, I would have no problem with it. Here’s a response from elsewhere in this thread. It and its responses should fill in the rest.
I made the case that post-service, I have free healthcare and others don’t. It sucks that this is the society we live in. We shouldn’t live in a fascist utopia like Starship Troopers where “Service means Citizenship.”
I don’t disagree with any of that. What I disagree is the overall thesis that “Nah, not all of us are going to sell you a line of shit.” (I said “excuses”, not shit.) You are, in this thread, selling me your excuses for joining. And it really didn’t take much pushback to get you going. So even if you’ve made some progress, you clearly have some pro-Empire baggage to work on.
Because my example was post service, showing that I get special treatment in a society that is unjust when it should be just for everyone? Hoping for universal healthcare?
Not at all. It’s because you centered your experience, how much it sucks for you to watch other people die. You gave your body to a country that doesn’t care for you. I absolutely insist on hammering this point home when veterans are in the room that y’all gotta learn that it’s not always about your misery.
I gave my body for a country that doesn’t care about anyone. I stated that. I made the case that post-service, I have free healthcare and others don’t. It sucks that this is the society we live in. We shouldn’t live in a fascist utopia like Starship Troopers where “Service means Citizenship.”
So sorry that you think you’ve got it so hard, while reaping the benefits of the society that we all hate and no one will give an ounce to fix.
I made the case that post-service, I have free healthcare and others don’t. It sucks that this is the society we live in. We shouldn’t live in a fascist utopia like Starship Troopers where “Service means Citizenship.”
I don’t disagree with any of that. What I disagree is the overall thesis that “Nah, not all of us are going to sell you a line of shit.” (I said “excuses”, not shit.) You are, in this thread, selling me your excuses for joining. And it really didn’t take much pushback to get you going. So even if you’ve made some progress, you clearly have some pro-Empire baggage to work on.
Then what else could it possibly be? You did the shooting, and now you want me to feel bad for you.
They’re talking about being treated better for a shitty reason and watching others who need that treatment not get it because they suck less. I don’t think that’s shoot&cry. I’ve had that feeling without ever working for the state.
It’s not just that single part of that single comment completely isolated from context. Like yes, if the quoted part was the only thing this user ever said, I would have no problem with it. Here’s a response from elsewhere in this thread. It and its responses should fill in the rest.
Point.
Because my example was post service, showing that I get special treatment in a society that is unjust when it should be just for everyone? Hoping for universal healthcare?
Not at all. It’s because you centered your experience, how much it sucks for you to watch other people die. You gave your body to a country that doesn’t care for you. I absolutely insist on hammering this point home when veterans are in the room that y’all gotta learn that it’s not always about your misery.
I gave my body for a country that doesn’t care about anyone. I stated that. I made the case that post-service, I have free healthcare and others don’t. It sucks that this is the society we live in. We shouldn’t live in a fascist utopia like Starship Troopers where “Service means Citizenship.”
So sorry that you think you’ve got it so hard, while reaping the benefits of the society that we all hate and no one will give an ounce to fix.
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I don’t disagree with any of that. What I disagree is the overall thesis that “Nah, not all of us are going to sell you a line of shit.” (I said “excuses”, not shit.) You are, in this thread, selling me your excuses for joining. And it really didn’t take much pushback to get you going. So even if you’ve made some progress, you clearly have some pro-Empire baggage to work on.