Seems a little odd that the fediverse uses Cloudfare.

  • Jul@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    10·
    9 hours ago

    Quad9 is only a DNS server and I do use that for all of my servers as do many others. It doesn’t provide domain registration, domain dns configuration, proxies, tunnels, etc, that Cloudflare does.

  • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    16·
    13 hours ago

    A lot of fediverse instances for some weird reason use Cloudflare for captchas and espionage. I assume it’s a sort of “genre-blind” offloading hardware work moment, if not something like being Class Traitors, because one of the big reasons people come to the Fediverse is precisely to escape the grip and decision power of giants like CF.

    • Clippy@piefed.socialEnglish
      11·
      15 hours ago

      I think they mean Cloudflare captcha but I don’t know that Quad9 has something like that

  • ohshit604@lemmy.halstead.host
    19·
    13 hours ago

    Seems a little odd that the fediverse uses Cloudfare.

    You need to be more descriptive, use in what regard? Both are capable DNS providers but as far as I’m aware, Cloudflare is also a domain registrar.

    Also each instance of Lemmy is configured differently, perhaps Lemmy.zip uses cloudflare but that isn’t the case for every instance of Lemmy.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
      6·
      12 hours ago

      Yeah the mentioned capcha features of CloudFlare are a reverse proxy & caching CDN they provide; Quad9 is a DNS resolver only AFAIK.

      Cloudflare also provides DNS resolving, but this isn’t something that a fediverse instance can put between itself and the user (that’s DNS hosting, which would probably be set up in connection with the aforementioned reverse proxy and CDN services)

      Some folks are commenting here that they have had Quad9 issues with reliability; if true that’s a recent occurrence as I used them for years as a resolver without issue (been using my ISP as a DNS resolver for about 2 years now as I’ve moved and haven’t had the ability to set up my old servers in my new location. Soon, I hope!)

  • normonator@lemmy.ml
    5·
    12 hours ago

    I used to use quad 9 but stopped using it after running into too many issues where it provided completely wrong results. Like not even outdated results just straight up wrong values that never existed, with both public websites as well as customer dns entries that I have managed for over a decade.

    • Jul@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      1·
      9 hours ago

      That’s odd, never had that issue and I’ve used it a long time. Even for my own domains changes propagate as quickly as any other DNS server I’ve used. Were your changes propagated to google, cloud flare, and the rest? Anyway, very weird since DNS propagation is pretty automated usually unless something is not propagating to any DNS server.

  • Brujones@lemmy.world
    5·
    14 hours ago

    I’ve never been able to chase it down, but Apple devices on my network always seem to have issues accessing some sites when using quad 9 for DNS. No problems with cloudflare, though. 🤷‍♂️

    • twkm@programming.dev
      7·
      13 hours ago

      1.1.1.1 does no filtering. 9.9.9.9 does, similar to 1.1.1.2. To skip filtering use 9.9.9.10.

      • Brujones@lemmy.world
        4·
        12 hours ago

        Thanks! I’ll give that a shot. I didn’t do much troubleshooting because other devices could access those sites just fine using 9.9.9.9, so I figured it was something weird in Apple’s system.

    • Admirable_Bagel_0989@lemmy.ml
      3·
      14 hours ago

      Yes, quad9 is a DNS provider, meaning the way to configure quad9 as your DNS provider is the same as configuring cloudflare but instead of 1.1.1.1 it’s 9.9.9.9 (hence the name quad9)

      edit: if you’re using android or a browser (or really anything that uses DNS over https), the URLs are different, but you can find more info at https://quad9.net/