• turtlesareneat@piefed.caEnglish
    24·
    2 小时前

    The foolproof solution is to sneak up to the camera, at night, with no electronics on your person, and shoot the fucking thing down.

  • Carmakazi@piefed.socialEnglish
    81·
    4 小时前

    Didn’t Mythbusters test all of these covers and coatings in like 2004 and basically none of them worked against a traffic cam of that era?

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      3 小时前

      It’ll pretty much only do anything against a camera using a flash in the dark and even then that’s probably only marginal. In normal daytime illumination everyone and every thing will still be able to see your plate just fine.

      I think I’d rather get a color e-ink display from China and mount it in a fake license plate frame, with a microcontroller behind it displaying a random assortment of plate styles and numbers as you drive along. If you see the 5-0, flip a the switch to lock it to your real plate number until they go away.

      • imadethis@fedinsfw.appEnglish
        10·
        2 小时前

        Unless your e-ink display has some pretty magical properties, it’s going to be spotted by a cop at random sooner or later, whether that’s at a traffic light, on the highway behind you, or even if they just roll by at a parking lot.

        Plus, I can assure you that the technology to instantly alert if a car shows a registration for, let’s say a blue honda, but looks like a red ford, has been around for longer than flock has been in the news. It’s why that shit with texas temporary license plates was such a big deal (you’d see them everywhere throughout the continent). Unless you have a way to know what other cars similar to yours have for their license plates, you’re going to get nabbed. And most places make your switching thing a pretty big deal as far as punishments go.

      • thezeesystem@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        3 小时前

        Couldn’t you make it automatic and do it. Don’t get have devices that detect all the wireless crap going on in a police car? For educational purposes only of course

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
      6·
      3 小时前

      You would need a mix of IR absorbing material and IR reflective material like what they use in Zenni ID guard glasses.

      An easier way to go about it would just be to install a bright IR light pointed at your plate, it would create a glare that would make it impossible for the camera to read.

      I have an IR scope for one of my rifles and thought it would be a bright idea to install a IR flashlight to help boost the field of vision… The flashlight I got was so bright that it just tuned the whole image white.

      So there are things that would work, but it would probably get you in more trouble than anything. It’s illegal in every state to attempt to obscure your tags from being tracked in any way.

      • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 小时前

        This is my right. It’d be pretty simple to install a small ring of IR LED around your plate and wire them into the car lights and a back up battery in the trunk. Basically keep it glowing 24/7. Probably like, 30 bucks in hardware from Ali to start from scratch.

        Kind of wonder what it’d be like to frame he whole car in it. Like a ghostly kia soul.

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
          2·
          2 小时前

          Might be a way to get around the intentional blocking of your plate. If you installed a bright enough IR light bar on the roof of your car pointing down the front and back… You would probably just show up as a moving block of light, might not even be recognized as a car by the AI.

    • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      3 小时前

      I’m willing to bet if it did do something useful, you would just make yourself a target for frequent stops by cops.

    • lol_idk@piefed.socialEnglish
      1·
      3 小时前

      If you want to beat camera that flash, set up a camera flash in slave mode pointing at your plate. It will overexpose it

  • ramble81@lemmy.zip
    9·
    2 小时前

    Flock also captures WiFi and Bluetooth MAC addresses and IMEI for cell signals. Even if they don’t get a license plate if your car has wireless CarPlay or Android Auto, if you’re connected via Bluetooth, if you have an in car hotspot, or if you have any connected services (remote start, phone app, traffic), they can track you by that.

    A license plate is no longer the only identifying piece of information.

    • redsand@infosec.pub
      1·
      20 分钟前

      Can still beat these with AI poisoning stickers on the plate. Mac spoofing, faraday bags, some car modification (we need open source head units) and more obvious solutions can all be used here.

      • Janx@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        1 小时前

        Sure. In the same way that you technically don’t have to have a phone, tablet, or computer to participate in the modem world.

      • ramble81@lemmy.zip
        2·
        1 小时前

        Some yes. Some no. Most of the the WiFi and BT can, but the car IMEI, usually no unless you yank the fuse/module.

        Now even if you disable your car stuff. It can still track those same things for your personal phone. Have an Apple or Google Watch, Bluetooth is enabled. Little things like that, which make it worse because now instead of tracking a car, they’re tracking people/personal devices.

  • Deme@sopuli.xyz
    24·
    3 小时前

    The cameras will track you anyways. You’ll just get tagged as “2003 Honda civic, gray, license plates unreadable…” along with a descriptive list of any stickers on the back of the car.

  • db2@lemmy.world
    6·
    3 小时前

    It might work at night when flashes and such are used, it won’t do anything during the day. It would also require frequent reapplication.

    You’d be better off using a sbc to design a tracking system that can identify flock camera lenses and blast them with a green laser pointer, a laser pointer which of course isn’t in any way driven beyond design parameters because that would be illegal.

    • Carmakazi@piefed.socialEnglish
      9·
      3 小时前

      Anything that can reliably hold a laser on a small camera lens when mounted to a moving vehicle, or even identify cameras in the first place, is Lockheed Martin-level stuff, this is crazy talk. Just mount a Trophy ADS to my Subaru real quick.

      • tyler@programming.dev
        1·
        3 小时前

        It only has to hit it once, before your plate is captured, the sensors stay overloaded for a few seconds.