Firefox says it will keep supporting uBlock Origin even as Microsoft Edge and other Chromium browsers phase it out under Manifest V3.

  • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Let me rephrase then: cookie prompt blocking capabilities are not tied to the Manifest version

    never said otherwise.

    But we’re discussing the ad-blocking features, because these are the ones affected by Mv3, no?

    no. that is not the only feature affected by Mv3. it is just the most noticeable feature affected.

    Define “not so effective”. What’s “effectiveness” in this case?

    ublock has many tools to defuse tracking mechanisms. it can fake browser mechanisms, it can stop scripts when they do a certain thing, it can replace entire javascript functions. it can modify outgoing network requests and incoming responses to them in many ways, which privacy badger does not implement. I don’t want to include multiple pages of text here, so please go through the wiki pages of the uBlock Origin github repository, because it details all the capabilities and technical details.

    but as even the main uBlock Origin maintainer says, the addon wouldn’t be worth anything without all the community sourced filter lists with quick fixes and specific blocking instructions for lots of websites. compared to that, privacy badger does not use filterlists. it can only do things that can apply to any website without breaking it, and that limits the options a lot.

    OK, but again: what’s the difference for the end-user? Does it impact resources utilisation? Website loading times? Reactivity? I don’t see a difference in how my uBO browser behaves vs how my Ghostery browser behaves, so what am I losing because of the Mv3 switch?

    I’m starting to think that you might be not arguing in good faith. but it is certain that we are going in circles and I’m wasting my time. you should look up the wast documentation of uBlock Origin and you will get all the answers, if you are genuinely interested. there are probably even technical comparisons between uBO and lite from the maintaners

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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      1 day ago

      ublock has many tools to defuse tracking mechanisms (…)

      Fair. What I still don’t understand is the level of impact this has. Considering I’m not being tracked in any noticeable way, or that I’m not seeing any ads, I just don’t get why people in this post are acting like uBO being blocked is a significant downgrade to the user experience.

      I’m starting to think that you might be not arguing in good faith.

      Sounds like someone not arguing in good faith would say, if anything. How is me trying to understand the impact of the mechanisms used by uBO vs those used by, say, Ghostery, "arguing in bad faith? WTF are you talking about?

      you should look up the wast documentation of uBlock Origin and you will get all the answers

      I will not. Because I get the technical details, a bunch of people already talked about them here. But nobody was able to tell me what do these features actually do compared to other adblocks.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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        7 hours ago

        Considering I’m not being tracked in any noticeable way

        lol. can you give me a few examples when tracking is noticeable? because I don’t know any, other than when sites show me consent prompts and privacy policies with obvious lies.

        How is me trying to understand the impact of the mechanisms used by uBO vs those used by, say, Ghostery, "arguing in bad faith? WTF are you talking about?

        how? you do not seem to be trying to understand this.

        Because I get the technical details

        you are wrong. you do not get the technical details. Otherwise you would not be saying stupid things like “I’m not being tracked in any noticeable way”.

        I have had enough. I will assume you did not find the information yourself because your favorite search engine only gives useless AI slop instead of information, so here is most things you need to know: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)

        • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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          5 hours ago

          lol. can you give me a few examples when tracking is noticeable?

          Various forms of suggested content based on searches/purchases, etc.

          how? you do not seem to be trying to understand this.

          People mentioned the technical differences a bunch of times. If you mean that I should get a PhD in network traffic and filtration to fully understand how these technical differences affect end-user experience, then yeah, i guess I’m not trying to understand it.

          If not - maybe you’d be the first to give me some actual info?

          https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)

          None of this explains what I"m looking for. Seems like you’re arguing in bad faith. :)