cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/65235734

On August 8, police arrived on the scene of Long Branch Lagoon Water Park in Dodge City, Kansas, to the sight of three self-described “bearded, burly men” who had been in the women’s bathroom and changing area. The manager of the municipally run property allegedly screamed and rushed children out the door.

The men knew this was likely. They didn’t agitate any of the women; they didn’t remove their clothes or make crass comments. They simply used the gendered spaces that the state of Kansas requires them to use by law, because these men are transgender.

“Supporters of SB244, including Attorney General Kris Kobach and Senate Majority Leader Ty Masterson, billed it as a way to keep men out of women’s spaces; it clearly requires some men to enter women’s spaces,” a press release sent to news outlets reads. So, these men took action—using malicious compliance to prove their point.

“Segregating people by suspected genitalia does nothing to improve public safety; it does quite the opposite by opening Kansans up to sexual harassment and discrimination. At no point should anyone be asking anyone else what genitals they have in public.”

The men, dressed in yellow “Compliance Crew” shirts, were part of a small group of trans-masculine Kansans who used the women’s room at facilities across the state that day in a coordinated action. They were also spotted at a zoo, a library, a museum, and other parks. They were in Emporia, Great Bend, Garden City, and Dodge City. At the library, at least one patron complained; at other places, the men used the bathroom and received dirty looks, and simply left the space without confrontation.

But at Long Branch Lagoon, members of the Kansas Compliance Crew resorted to having to describe their genitals to police in order to resolve the matter and avoid arrest.

“The men had a discussion with the manager and police and explained the situation, including uncomfortable descriptions of their bodies,” the press release said. Furthermore, both the manager and the police reportedly said “they had never heard of SB244 nor been notified by any government entity of its passage.”

“I could easily continue using the men’s restroom under the radar,” said Ray Vieux, who participated as one of the demonstrators.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    bathrooms would be single rooms with nothing but a toilet

    Hope you’re ready to wait in a hella-long line.

    If were gonna police anything in the bathrooms it should be hand washing.

    angry libertarian noises

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      You do realize they can put the same number of toilets as any other bathroom setup right? I don’t even know how you got to that conclusion.

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        I guarantee you can fight more people around one of those pee-troughs at a baseball stadium than you can fit individual toilets separated by walls and doors.

        Hell, the entire appeal of the standing urinal is to conserve space.

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          lmao a piss trough in a baseball stadium is quite the strawman my dude. Nevermind that you’re forgetting about poop.

          But sure lets set the bar as low as possible. ‘Tis the libertarian way I guess. That and eating popcorn with other dudes’ piss all over your hands.

          Not gonna yuk your yum but microdosing golden showers is not something most people are into.

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            lmao a piss trough in a baseball stadium is quite the strawman my dude.

            I don’t think you know what a strawman is. But this need to hide people from one another while they piss and poop is a big part of what feeds the anti-trans hysteria.

            Not gonna yuk your yum but microdosing golden showers is not something most people are into.

            This is why people traditionally wash their hands after using the toilet.

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              But this need to hide people from one another while they piss and poop is a big part of what feeds the anti-trans hysteria.

              I don’t know why you’re trying to use that as part of an argument for why we ought not to have a whole bunch of separate cubicles. No one sees anyone peeing or pooping then, at all. No problem.

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          I’ve been to Red Rock Amphitheatre twice, and they have a restroom exactly like described (minus the mints sadly). It functions perfectly well. I used it a good number of times. And yes, there is a line, but it’s no longer than the gender segregated ones on average. There’s a ton of people, and most of them are drinking, so it has to function well, and it does. It’s probably the “main” restroom, as it’s the one closest to the front stage.

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          I guarantee you can fight more people around one of those pee-troughs at a baseball stadium than you can fit individual toilets separated by walls and doors.

          odd i didnt know female (the majority of the population) bathrooms had pee troughs… fun fact: if you switched to unisex you’d actually have less lines due to queuing theory removing the gendered spikes at any given point due to larger total availability per gender. right now you have 1/2 of the total availability for women and 1/4 the total availability for men vs a non-gendered setup.

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      angry libertarian noises

      What’s next, requiring a licence to not wash my hands after using a public bathroom?

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      Modern Libertarians are anti-LGBT and have completely lost their way. They hated their own 2024 presidential candidate Chase Oliver so much for being gay that there was an attempt by many in the party to replace him with Trump, and there were letters pleading for party members to vote for him despite him being gay. It was all super lame and I left. Libertarians used to be at the forefront of individuality and personal liberties, but not anymore. The official website might claim otherwise, but that’s just PR.

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        They hated their own 2024 presidential candidate Chase Oliver so much for being gay that there was an attempt by many in the party to replace him with Trump

        I’m intimately familiar with Texas Libertarians, having family who are actively involved in the state party. They were woo’d by Trump pretty much day one of his campaign. So much of modern southern libertarianism is just a mask over the Neo-Confederate ideology that went out of style under Bush Jr.

        Chase Oliver only won the nomination in 2024, because so many self-proclaimed libertarians had defected back to the GOP already. The folks whining about the nomination wanted to have their GOP affiliation and eat their Libertarian cake, too. And while he took a ton of cheap heat for his sexual orientation, the real thing that made Chase a target for ire is that he wasn’t a closed borders militant white supremacist psycho.

        Libertarians used to be at the forefront of individuality and personal liberties

        The party has always worn two faces. One face pointed towards the liberals, which promised weed and free love and no more wars. Another face towards the Dixiecrat south, which promised Jim Crow and indentured servitude and CSAM.

        Love my NORML libertarians, but I quickly recognized this group was not for me when I spent a weekend at the state convention way back in 2012.

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          …the real thing that made Chase a target for ire is that he wasn’t a closed borders militant white supremacist psycho.

          This is how you know Libertarians are dumb. Libertarianism would be against the borders. Left-Libertarian (Anarchism) largely is. Right-Libertarian only cares about letting companies take advantage of people, and doesn’t care about people at all.