They are not, but you seem unable to grasp this with your mental gymnastics.
How so? I am genuinely interested to be proven wrong, I’m just not seeing it. They’ve held dynastic control as general secretaries of the WPK have they not?
Just like you did with the Ukrainian Nazi symbol. Which you defended!
I have no interest in defending any Nazis, Ukrainian or otherwise. I just thought that post made a weak argument at a time when we need to be strong against the fascist uprising, and not look like we’re seeing SS symbols where they aren’t there. I’m happy to discuss that further.
How so? I am genuinely interested to be proven wrong, I’m just not seeing it. They’ve held dynastic control as general secretaries of the WPK have they not?
Cowbee has provided enough information to you for you to realize this, but you still ignore or twist it all in your fucked liberal mind.
and not look like we’re seeing SS symbols where they aren’t there. I’m happy to discuss that further.
See? You still deny the SS symbol. You even went like “that resembles the SS symbol” last time. Go back to reddit.
No need to be mean. I’m trying my best to understand the points you and Cowbee are making. Liberals blindly accept propaganda, I’m trying to think for myself here.
No you are not, you’re prodding and prodding while ignoring any and all points given until you get to one that seems even remotely flawed to you for you to hyperfocus on and criticize. Not honest at all.
I think it’s important to distinguish whether something is an SS symbol or something looks like an SS symbol. They may very well have done it on pupose for plausible deniability, but if we’re not precise in our language, we give ammunition to the enemy.
LITERALLY the SS symbol that you said was “blurry and looks like 44” like stop pretending.
As I understand it after the dissolution of the position of President, Kim Jong il and Kim Jong Un have held positions that are while important certainly not central such as General Secretary of the WPK. The Standing Committee of the Supreme People’s Assembly is the central state power and it’s members are elected by the Supreme People’s Assembly who are in turn elected through direct nationwide blind ballot.
The comparison I’m about to make isn’t 100% accurate but it’s close enough to make the point I hope. The British royal family theoretically due to their position swears in the pm and leads the country etc etc, whereas in reality it’s the parliament that is the actual central political power. The Kim family is habitually elected high positions like general secretary due to the legacy they hold but in reality most of their time is spent on more ceremonial work like inspecting new developments etc while the Supreme People’s Assembly is the actual central state power. Another similar analogy is the president of Ireland as I understand it signs the laws and swears in politicians but is generally a ceremonial role this analogy is probably more accurate as like the Kim’s it is an elected position however the general point remains.
Yeah that’s why I didn’t want to make that particular analogy because it appears to have whizzed over your head even when I included the end bit to try solidify the actual point at hand. The point is the roles they are elected to (which they are in stark contrast to a monarchy of any kind) are high ranking but not central to political power or work. Largely ceremonial and advisory.
because it appears to have whizzed over your head even when I included the end bit to try solidify the actual point at hand.
That user is intentionally doing it, the chain of questions was to eventually hyperfocus on any perceived flaw and ignore any or all points made before.
I’m not sure the president of Ireland is a good analogy since they don’t sit for life.
Theoretically the Kim’s don’t either hence the elections, they’re just that popular and whether you like it or not that’s how democracy works the person the most people like wins.
All the sources I can find say that the General Secretary of WPK is a de facto power position, not a ceremonial one
Given the republicans are in power in America right now would you say Joe Gruters is central to state power? (Obviously not). Also I never said they don’t hold power just that they weren’t central and spent the majority of their time on LARGELY ceremonial and advisory tasks.
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They are not, but you seem unable to grasp this with your mental gymnastics. Just like you did with the Ukrainian Nazi symbol. Which you defended!
How so? I am genuinely interested to be proven wrong, I’m just not seeing it. They’ve held dynastic control as general secretaries of the WPK have they not?
I have no interest in defending any Nazis, Ukrainian or otherwise. I just thought that post made a weak argument at a time when we need to be strong against the fascist uprising, and not look like we’re seeing SS symbols where they aren’t there. I’m happy to discuss that further.
Cowbee has provided enough information to you for you to realize this, but you still ignore or twist it all in your fucked liberal mind.
See? You still deny the SS symbol. You even went like “that resembles the SS symbol” last time. Go back to reddit.
Just like all the libs who said Platners tattoo was a pirate symbol, LOL.
Libs: “Elon did the Nazi salute!”
ML: “Yeah, and Platner has a tattoo of the Totenkopf, an unmistakenly Nazi symbol of death”
Libs: “Okay now hold on a moment…”
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No you are not, you’re prodding and prodding while ignoring any and all points given until you get to one that seems even remotely flawed to you for you to hyperfocus on and criticize. Not honest at all.
LITERALLY the SS symbol that you said was “blurry and looks like 44” like stop pretending.
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As I understand it after the dissolution of the position of President, Kim Jong il and Kim Jong Un have held positions that are while important certainly not central such as General Secretary of the WPK. The Standing Committee of the Supreme People’s Assembly is the central state power and it’s members are elected by the Supreme People’s Assembly who are in turn elected through direct nationwide blind ballot.
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The comparison I’m about to make isn’t 100% accurate but it’s close enough to make the point I hope. The British royal family theoretically due to their position swears in the pm and leads the country etc etc, whereas in reality it’s the parliament that is the actual central political power. The Kim family is habitually elected high positions like general secretary due to the legacy they hold but in reality most of their time is spent on more ceremonial work like inspecting new developments etc while the Supreme People’s Assembly is the actual central state power. Another similar analogy is the president of Ireland as I understand it signs the laws and swears in politicians but is generally a ceremonial role this analogy is probably more accurate as like the Kim’s it is an elected position however the general point remains.
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Yeah that’s why I didn’t want to make that particular analogy because it appears to have whizzed over your head even when I included the end bit to try solidify the actual point at hand. The point is the roles they are elected to (which they are in stark contrast to a monarchy of any kind) are high ranking but not central to political power or work. Largely ceremonial and advisory.
That user is intentionally doing it, the chain of questions was to eventually hyperfocus on any perceived flaw and ignore any or all points made before.
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https://lemmy.ml/post/51548806/27336883
Then return to this point.
Yeah, like a chain of questions with answers you ignore or twist into something for you to attack. Whatever.
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Theoretically the Kim’s don’t either hence the elections, they’re just that popular and whether you like it or not that’s how democracy works the person the most people like wins.
Given the republicans are in power in America right now would you say Joe Gruters is central to state power? (Obviously not). Also I never said they don’t hold power just that they weren’t central and spent the majority of their time on LARGELY ceremonial and advisory tasks.