• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 hour ago

    If you think denying technology to China because they work with Russia is a proportional response to Russia murdering people in Europe, I have some news for you about CIA activities all over the World including in Europe …

    It’s a lot more simple to just follow the logic of Principles and pushing back on those commiting wars of aggression and genocide and those who support them as a rule and without trying to treat some of those one way and others differently for *reasons*, than try and come up with the perfect red-line of actions in Europe which decides between “do nothing at all” and “block anybody in any away associated with them”, that puts Russia on the bad side of the line and the likes of America on the good side so that we can keep on treating one set of murderous imperialists better than the other.

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      27 minutes ago

      If you think denying technology to China because they work with Russia is a proportional response

      It’s not about proportional response, it’s about what we can do. We can’t do alot, but we could at least not share critical technology.

      I’m not sure why are you comparing Russia to US. The CIA has never officially planned or executed a successful coup in Europe. If you want us to get hostile towards any country who has done something to another country (outside EU), we’d have only enemies.

      It’s a lot more simple to just follow the logic of Principles and pushing back on those commiting wars of aggression and genocide

      Again. If we’d get involved into every conflict, we’d likely have no friends, but only enemies. Which war is more important for Europe? Why would we shift focus to middle east? Europe is already pretty much hostile towards Israel and not on good terms with US (Spain just signed some mining deal with Iran), but why are we even talking about those two conflicts? There are currently 25+ active conflicts. Why not a single word about Thailand and Cambodia, or all those African conflicts, or Iran, or Afghanistan, or Sudan, or etc… Either you’re a hypocrite and care about specific conflict only, or you want EU to basically sacrifice itself by getting involved into every conflict (which would borderline lead to isolationism).

      What do you think Americans would do with Russo-Ukrainian war if we sent assist or even weapons to Palestine (same old “what can we even do?”)? Same with getting involved into Asia (Thailand). Let’s just not, we have our own war.