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      So if the US was to lay claim to the moon, it wouldn’t be colonizing the moon? What would we call it when a nation decides that land far away from their borders now belongs to them? Did Argentina not have people there after they achieved independence from the Spanish? Did the British not move in with a naval force and expel the Argentinians there agains their will only to replace them with British people? It’s no surprise that the UK is such a staunch defender of Israel. They act so much alike!

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        Did the British not move in with a naval force and expel the Argentinians there agains their will only to replace them with British people?

        No, they did not.

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          So what did Captain James Onslow of the HMS Clio do in 1833 if not expel the Argentinian administrators of the islands?

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              “Reassert British control” of a territory that they took from the French and lost to the Spanish, halfway around the world.

              So Jose Maria Pinedo wasn’t forced to leave the island after the British Navy moved in a forced them to take down the Argentinian flag and replace it with the British one? Does Wikipedia not work where you are, or are you just reflexively defending imperialism without looking up to ensure what you’re saying is correct before you say it?

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                So Jose Maria Pinedo wasn’t forced to leave the island after the British Navy moved in a forced them to take down the Argentinian flag and replace it with the British one?

                Neither Pinedo not the handful of people in the islands were expelled.

                Does Wikipedia not work where you are, or are you just reflexively defending imperialism without looking up to ensure what you’re saying is correct before you say it?

                Maybe you should read carefully what the Wikipedia article says.

                Regardless, this topic will never stop being funny. Turns out, there are people out there who sympathize with Spanish nobility turned colonizers, turned South American landowners, like they are any better than the British. I guess the same people support the US in the Spanish-American war.

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                  I guess the United States owns the moon since they got there first and it was uninhabited when they landed and planted their flag first.

                  Crazy that the tiny island of the UK somehow also has legitimate claim to land on the other side of the globe too and not the mainland nation that the island is closer to and which was then controlled by them when they got independence from the Spanish.

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                    I guess the United States owns the moon since they got there first and it was uninhabited when they landed and planted their flag first.

                    I guess you have missed the last 50 years of diplomacy about outer space claims.

                    Crazy that the tiny island of the UK somehow also has legitimate claim to land on the other side of the globe too and not the mainland nation that the island is closer to and which was then controlled by them when they got independence from the Spanish.

                    Oh, you mean like Greenland?

                    Just one slight difference of course, and that’s the fact that Argentina didn’t control the Falklands at the time.