I’m not a troll, I just call other people out for their BS.

I think most of lemmy.today is bad faith astroturfing.

This is not the first time !PapaSkwat@lemmy.today has preemptively banned me from a community I’m pretty sure I’ve never interacted with.

This is a warning for others. Do not assume posts on Lemmy.today are real or in good faith.

Here is a related post with similar circumstances.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/57218230

  • CubitOom@infosec.pubOPEnglish
    7·
    5 days ago

    Yes, I said that. Notice however it was directed at the community.

    I don’t have proof of astroturfing, and admittedly this might be something else I don’t know the word for.

    I have noticed the change is post activity from right wing conservative talking points that paint immigrants and minorities in a bad light to the posts they seem to make today.

    They are both quite prolific posters which is dubious because as someone that has a hard time reviewing and checking the content that I post, I know it takes a lot of time and care to not post misinformation or to find a good source.

    Their posts often do not contain any discussion or if they do, they often mock or ban the users that they disagree with.

    They are constantly creating new communities which seems innocuous at first glance until you notice that every now and then the posts contain some bad source or content that is disparaging to minorities or human rights.

    It almost feels like they are laundering a right wing authoritarian feed and trying their best to make sure it reaches the largest possible audience by “balancing” it with more normal content.

    It seems suspicious and I hope other people are noticing or have time to research deeper. Most of my time is allocated to document human rights violations, help the people that need it in my IRL community, and my family so I won’t be able to take this on myself.

    • Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      Thanks for clarifying, I wasn’t sure since you used the word instance.

      I get not having the time to look into it either, and neither do I.

      From everything I’ve seen from DJM or Papa or any of the accounts accused of being him/them, I haven’t come across anything overly right wing or authoritarian. That said, I probably see a sliver of their content since I don’t follow the conservative community, but the few times I’ve interacted with them have been pretty civil.

      Now, this isn’t to say “They’re nice to me and I haven’t seen any evil, so it doesn’t exist.” All I’m saying is I haven’t seen anything questionable and every time I get linked to damning evidence, it ends up pretty innocuous.

      I don’t think you can blame someone if there’s no discussion around the content they post, like 75% of the articles I post get one or two comments at most. As for the mass posting, eh. Maybe they read fast like I do, because I usually speed through 10-20 articles every morning and post like 6-7 of them.

      Early on in my lemmy days, I posted more varied articles and even had a Conspiracy Tuesday, but lemmings have a hard time differentiating the poster from the source. “Let’s discuss this” vs. “This is my opinion.” Now I have to state I don’t agree with the source beforehand so I don’t get angry comments, and even then…

      I’m not saying that’s what DJM was doing, just saying it’s not cool to shoot the messenger.

      However, if they are posting maga rhetoric and arguing in favor of it, I’d like to know.

    • PapaSkwat@lemmy.today
      2·
      5 days ago

      How would anyone create an authoritarian feed on lemmy though? Simply block the poster, and you don’t see their content. Authoritarian instances would get defederated almost immediately. Authoritarian and real fascist comments and content get banned almost immediately, as do the posters.

      Do you honestly think that people on Lemmy are so weak-minded that they wouldn’t notice a fascist article simply because someone posted a bunch of rueters news articles beforehand? I don’t agree with that angle at all. No way would that trick work. I have more faith in Lemmy than you do, I guess.

      I have never posted content that disparaged minorities or human rights in my communities. Have you ever actually looked in my communities or read the articles? Here are 3 full pages of my recent posts. Which of these articles in my communities slip in info disparage minorities or human rights?