• Glytch@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Making a lot of assumptions here.

    The women standing in this picture could be in a polycule situation with the dude at the table and he could be stepping out on all of them with the seated woman. It could be a group of single women playing a mean-spirited prank on their friend’s lame first date. It could also be completely fake and made for attention.

    I know there are a lot of monogamous people out there who talk shit about polyamory, largely out of ignorance or envy, but there’s no need to mirror that energy back at them. It won’t change their minds or stop the shit talk and it just increases the level of negativity surrounding the conversation. Remember, the sweetest revenge against your haters is to live your best life.

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      Wtf is that sus link?

      Have you considered the third possibility that I mentioned? That it might be fake and for attention?

      the sexual liberal partner

      You’re aware that polyamorous relationships require clear communication and boundaries to not become abusive, correct? Just like monogamous ones do? From your word choice when talking about a potential cheater, I’m getting the impression that you don’t actually know what a healthy relationship is let alone what a healthy polyamorous relationship is.

      …but judging by your other responses in this thread a productive conversation is not in the offing, so I’ll just end my part of it here and wish you a good day.

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      Making a lot of assumptions

      I’m not. The worst part is, is making this a public spectacle. If it were a “step out” situation, why include the public & a private franchise to milk the situation? The reason we even have this picture is because these sexual domineers wanted to publicly shame the sexual liberal partner.

      Remember, the sweetest revenge against your haters is to live your best life.

      Then why shame a liberated partner in public, in a restaurant, for us to even have a captioned snapchat crop?

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        That link shows a chicken with pigtails?

        Anyway… being poly isn’t a bad thing. Being poly and lying to a partner that your monogamous, kinda is. If one party of a relationship changes their mind after commitments are made, the other party should be made aware before anything is acted on. If not, they are a lying piece of shit that can’t be trusted. Pretending to be monogamous just to trick someone into a relationship until your bored with them, despicable.

        Edit, lost my last word on posting.

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          That link shows a chicken with pigtails?

          You need a tumblr account to see Kaijuno’s blog, which is the source of the snapchat crop.

          We comprehend intimacy “cheating.”

          Being poly and lying to a partner that your monogamous, kinda is

          Let’s skip patronizing me about being dishonest in relationships. Did this sexual liberal lie to these mcnos? Yes. Does he deserve to be outed for dishonesty? Absolutely yes. Do these mcnos need to make this a public snapchat event? [insert your morality here]
          Will they go to court to settle the divorce proceedings? Absolutely 200% yes.

          My issue is with western bigamy domineering that even allowed this snapchat to take place. Not that the dishonest partner got exposed for dishonesty. But that monogamist are leopards predating on law enforcement.

          Mcnogamists strike again⚡

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            How much media that is put out is just because people engage with scandalous shit? If people didn’t, we might not have had to deal with reality shows or viral media apps. Of course there will be people using social media that want to be part of that. Sex and scandals sell.

            I do think it’s odd that you think that me sharing my own views is patronizing you. I just gave my 2cents, from my personal experience, relating to cheating partners. Not all cheaters are poly, seen many cheaters choose a monogamous relationship later in life. They were just too cowardly to be open and honest with their partner(s) or worse (in my opinion), openly lied to a partner about their cheating. Some were poly, and it was a realization they were aiming for a relationship they didn’t really want, but had been raised by a society that said they did, and had tried to believe it. Does not excuse the cheating though.

            My real only point is/was: Whatever your sexual preferences are, lying to an intimate partner about who you are intimate with is a shit move, and makes that liar shitty.

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              It maybe that you don’t know how liberated and anarchist I am, that I want public shaming sexual dominant groups to cease existing in the 21c. We both agree dishonesty should be condemned. But these mcnogamist domineered their relationship with the man, to make it a spectacle, and not divorce handout. Liars do deserve to be outed, but these domineers also wanted exclusive access to his sexual activities.
              Lying is shit. Dominating others is shittier.

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            I don’t even know what you are trying to claim? You keep linking to a wiki article that just lists the status of legal polygamy in different countries and hoping people draw the same conclusions you have.

            You also keep claiming that the man being accused of cheating is sexually liberal just because he has chosen to cheat, but I think that you would have to assume that he didn’t expect his partner to be A monogamist for him to be actually liberal about sex and not just an asshole.

            Countries with legal Polygamy can still utilize social shaming and the law to sexually oppress their partners. In fact some of those states have some of the most severe punishments for infidelity on the planet, and they are typically hyper patriarchal and have laws only utilized against women.

            You can’t be sexually liberal while still expecting your partner to practice monogamy.

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              These folks are <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“24” height=“auto”>. Bigamy is illegal there. These Mcnogamists have already filed divorce proceedings.

              Notice the sign says “I love McCheating on my wife”. Not “I love McLying to my partners.” My issue is with monogamous domineers, not dishonesty. Jealousy is fickle thing, dishonesty is a grave error.

              utilize social shaming and the law to sexually oppress their partners.

              Something I hope we disavow.

              You can’t be sexually liberal while still expecting your partner to practice monogamy.

              But the opposite situation is what transpired here:
              monogamous domineers expected honesty in a sexually liberal society. Otherwise this wouldn’t be public shaming McChat event, it would be “the divorce papers are finalized! 😁✌️×4 😭” “omg bae, when my cray fae in crime tells me ‘not to worry about it kitten’”

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                Notice the sign says “I love McCheating on my wife”. Not “I love McLying to my partners.” My issue is with monogamous domineers

                I guess what I am trying to understand is what part you are being critical of? That the wife would choose to divorce their husband because of his infidelity? Or the concept of marriage being a legal concept?

                Something I hope we disavow.

                Obviously, but I fail to see why you chose to specify western/American law/culture when we see similar social/legal constructs all over the globe regardless of their attitude towards polygamy.

                But the opposite situation is what transpired here:
                monogamous domineers expected honesty in a sexually liberal society.

                What is your definition of a sexually liberal society? Regardless, the socially acceptable mores do not inherently apply to the dealings between two consenting adults who have defined the bounds of their own relationship.

                Otherwise this wouldn’t be public shaming McChat event

                I don’t really understand what you’re implying here. Imo she felt hurt and shame about her husband breaching the terms of their relationship and felt the urge to lash out at her husband. Now I don’t really condone that behavior, but I can understand why someone would feel that way if I shared the same belief system.

                “the divorce papers are finalized! 😁✌️×4 😭” “omg bae, when my cray fae in crime tells me ‘not to worry about it kitten’”

                Also didn’t understand what you’re going for here, but I suspect that is mainly due to me being middle-aged.

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                  That the relationships were as fickle as a McChat. I am unsure why you keep being confused these are USian mongamists. They expect an honest exclusive partner, and found out he was dishonest inclusive partner.

                  What is your definition of a sexually liberal society?

                  That partners are liberally free to have sex with whatever they want? Man, Women, Elves, Dragons, it doesn’t matter so long as there’s consent.

                  but I can understand why someone would feel that way if I shared the same belief system.

                  That’s the issue here as well. Many folks downranked me for comprehending their believe system is morally irreprehensible in a liberal society. Yet they still chose to downrank my comprehension of the mcnogamist domineers spectacularizing a relationship situation. It didn’t have to be a public event at all. But they liberally choose to.

                  I suspect that is mainly due to me being middle-aged

                  🤣 It’s ok, I can boomer-translate it for you: In Snapchat, #divorce fillings is an extremely popular for-profit industry. So much so, this #cheating/#cheaters trend trended all the way to tumblr, where this image got cropped from. I am parodizing what many folks in snapchat would say if this were a true dishonesty proceeding, and the snapchatter would have trended the public event as a stranger with modern politically correct conscience. This particular snapchatter is soo into gold digging that they label themselves as “fae in crime.” ’Cause fairies in original mythology kidnapped children. It’s my dark twist to the parody I made in my politically correct hypothetical.

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                    That the relationships were as fickle as a McChat. I am unsure why you keep being confused these are USian mongamists. They expect an honest exclusive partner, and found out he was dishonest inclusive partner.

                    Okay, so the overall criticism is about sexual exclusively in general, but specifically when tied to legal ramifications. I guess I can understand that, but to be honest, I don’t really know if I agree that sexually inclusive relationships are any less fickle. I also don’t think the fact that they are western/American really is relevant considering sexual exclusivity isn’t really unique across different cultures.

                    That partners are liberally free to have sex with whatever they want?

                    I think the confusion I had was because in different post it wasn’t exactly clear if you were assigning criticism towards both partners, a single partner, or the concept of monogamy.

                    is morally irreprehensible in a liberal society.

                    This is something I still don’t think I would fully agree with, but I can see your point of view. I personally think it’s perfectly fine if two consenting adults want to agree to enter a monogamist relationship.

                    Yet they still chose to downrank my comprehension of the mcnogamist domineers spectacularizing a relationship situation. It didn’t have to be a public event at all. But they liberally choose to.

                    Like I said, I personally don’t think it’s very tasteful, but I wouldn’t read too much into it as a comment about monogamist domineering. To me I would more attribute it to people being messy bitches about their personal business.

                    I can boomer-translate it for you:

                    Lol, yeah… Would not have guessed there was that much information conveyed in a couple sentences. You are really making me feel my age.