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    11 hours ago

    China stands as a current authoritarian model which is being championed by people like Australian economist Steve Keen.

    Way to learn the exact wrong lesson from china.

    China does a lot of good and a lot of bad.

    We need to learn the pragmatism, government investment and holding private companies accountable part from them, not the censorship and surveillance.

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      Yeah, I’m at a point where I kinda hope China becomes the world overlord… I’d rather “fuck you, society comes first” than “fuck you, billionaires come first”.

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        I’d rather “fuck you, society comes first” than “fuck you, billionaires come first”.

        the problem is that it’s on a knife edge of if it’s truly “society first” or “the communist party and current premier first”. Just like the soviet union.

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      I fear we are doing the opposite. Worst of both worlds.

      How did that old joke go?

      “Quebec could have gotten French food, American tech and British culture, but instead they chose French tech, American culture and British food”

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            Easily. Voivod, Gorguts, Beyond creation.

            I can give specific albums/songs later.

            Voivod : start with this cover of pink floyd’s astronomy domine to see their aesthetics and to ease into the heaviness

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIk7KcFAyf0

            My favourite that shows their dynamicism and typical features :
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Z1ryBN-FE

            Albums to start with : Nothingface, Dimension Hatross

            Gorguts : The albums to start with :
            Colored sands
            From Wisdom to hate.

            Avoid Obscura until much later. Obscura is a brilliant and innovative cornerstone of tech death, but it’s REALLY jarring and tiring to listen to. Don’t start there and hate them.

            Songs to start with :

            Testimonial Ruins :
            Instrumental, sick riffs, easy to follow. Dissonant, but stable.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGLC6kHmMI

            Wisdom to hate : Catchy as fuck, full of hatred and history. Sets the frame nicely for the later album/song Pleiades Dust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIqaiEIVxk

            Le Toit du monde:
            Modern Gorguts for the modern person. Full of dynamic changes and interesting sections.
            https://gorguts.bandcamp.com/track/le-toit-du-monde

            Beyond creation :

            So, there’s been a few threads recently where people talk about how to discover music. Beyond creation is where the exercise is going to be left to the reader, because Forest, the original bass player is basically one of these supersocial people that connects fucking everyone together, and he’s in every single fucking band. If you want more recs after listening to my offerings here, just check out the other bands he’s in and the musicians those other bands are in, and you’ll have more than enough recs to keep you busy.

            Sous La Leur de this song is in french for once:
            This is a great, well paced song with excellent use of fretless bass (like most songs by beyond), and one of the fun parts of listening to music with screaming vocals, that you can’t even know what fucking language it’s in. It took me a long time before I realised the song was in french. https://beyondcreation.bandcamp.com/track/sous-la-lueur-de-lempereur

            Social disability :
            This song has a “you’ll know when you hear it moment” that shows amazing dynamics and compositional craftsmanship that’s always amazing to hear.
            https://beyondcreation.bandcamp.com/track/social-disabillity

            Agorythm(Surface’s echoes):
            I just wanted an example from the 3rd album, just to note that they slowed down a bit on purpose, but it didn’t suffer that much. Surface’s echoes is a good starting point :
            https://beyondcreation.bandcamp.com/track/surfaces-echoes

            Additional note : Forest is basically like Steve Di Giorgio for florida death metal, or Gene Hoglan, or Terry Bozzio or someone else where you just fucking look in any bands’ discography, and, well, there he fucking goes. He’s in this fucking band too. It’s easier to say which bands they’re not fucking in. Obviously, they aren’t in all the bands at the same time, but they’re just in at least on release at some point or another for these bands.

            Post Script : I was really fucking bummed out at missing seeing Cynic peform live, not just because its fucking CYNIC but because they had Beyond Creation opening for them, and I really really do I like what BC does with the fretless bass.

            Post Post Script : Fuck it, check out first fragment while you’re at it, it’s Forest’s other band. Also, Forest peformed in a tour for gorguts when Colin was unavailable.
            https://uniqueleaderrecords.bandcamp.com/track/solus

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              Thank you very much for that essayon music ^^, appreciate it. I’ll give them a listen for sure.

              My current song that i can’t let go is- let me sleep,by Paleface Swiss and- headbutt by Igorrr.

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                headbutt by Igorrr.

                fucking yeah. The real gold is trying to get the hyper-fusion bands related to Igorrr, through Timb Harris, Estradasphere and Secret Chiefs 3, through Nils and Antony Pryapisme.

                Corpo mente and Öxxö Xööx are good too, just the other bands are fucking astronomically amazing.

                let me sleep,by Paleface Swiss

                Thanks for the rec, I’ve head good things about Paleface Swiss and never checked them out