Let there be no doubt, Trump is the symptom, not the problem. Vance is the President in Waiting (I predict he will be POTUS after the November elections), and he will be far worse then Trump ever could be. Trump is knee-jerk, Vance is cold and calculating.
But the good news is, based on the mud-slinging the Republican party is doing, they are really. really afraid they will lose the Senate AND the House in November, and they are trying to shore up support in America for their failed policies. They really, really need this trade deal, and Carney knows it. Unless they get a trade deal before November, the American political scene will look very, very different.
Refer to my other comment above for a description of what it is. How tf did both of you see a term you didn’t understand, and did not think to simply look it up?
The Avro Arrow thing was a weird example they brought up because they also misunderstood what “neoliberal” meant, but it could potentially reflect neoliberal politics in that a renewal of the project in 2011 was cancelled by the Harper admin over cost concerns, which is a reasoning neoliberals use often.
I am entirely aware of neoliberalism. You might want to research the Avro Arrow. The Avro Arrow was the premiere Canadian industrial project in the 50’s, It was a collaborative effort by the Canadian government and Canadian private industry (Avro) to develop the world’s most advanced fighter AND commercial jet aircraft known at the time. The concept had advanced as far as the production stage for the commercial version (Avro Jetliner). The military version was at the final design stage, with prototypes being built. The Conservative government under Diefenbaker pulled the plug on it, and basically put a very progressive and influential Canadian company (Avro) out of business and chased top level Canadian engineers and scientists South to work for NASA and other American aviation firms. It was arguably the most massive brain drain Canada has ever seen. It singularly destroyed any hope of Canada having an world class aviation industry independent of the Americans and beyond American control, while at the same time ensuring NASA and the other American ‘aviation giants’ had the best intellectual minds known at the time. NASA would never have made it to the Moon without these Canadian giants. The Conservative government pulled the plug on it expressly because the American government at the time gave dire warnings that if it continued America would ‘gut’ Canada, and Dief the Chief’ caved in. The publicly stated reason was that Canada could no longer afford it as it was soaking up all investment capital and public money, but then made a complete falsity of this argument by insisting every last scrap of the project from machinery, blueprints, any and all completed assemblies, and all design documents to not just be scrapped but to be completely destroyed, shredded and crunched into bits of metal. He wanted the project to be completely wiped off the face of the earth, no trace remaining. As you stated this was well before the term ‘neoliberalism’ was even thought about. Neoliberalism has absolutely nothing to do with Canada’s current position and was not a factor in creating it. It goes back a lot farther than anything you stated. Your neoliberal rant is nothing but hot air.
Okay so, firstly, go actually read the comment you’re responding to. You’re making mistakes here that I specifically adressed from your first comment. Go look up what it means, seriously, you’ll see that my description is actually pretty useful.
None of this relates to neoliberalism since, again, it doesn’t just mean, “when a government does things.” But I can see more clearly here that you brought up something less relevant than say, the past fifty years of public spending and international economic policy, because you misunderstand the influence the US has over Canada as being primarily in terms of military power, which is not what I referred to even once. Imperialism does not just manifest as military might, it is a complex system of power that involves political, cultural, and economic subordination, which is why neoliberalism has been so prominent in imperialistic spaces like the US, Canada, EU, UK, Australia, Japan, etc. over the past fifty years. This plane project seems to intersect with some special interest you have, but I’m afraid that doesn’t mean that it is the most effective or useful way to understand this topic. You also seem to think I said “imperialism” began in the 1980s, which, no, I didn’t, and it’s very unreasonable to draw that from what I said. It is literally objective fact that people have warned against this power imbalance since the neoliberal era began; go look up CUSFTA and NAFTA discourses. This isn’t even something debatable, and I know you don’t understand what you’re arguing against because of that.
Before you spew some more, y’know, read this comment first, but I’d like you to please find some sources to corroborate the incredible claim that fifty years of public and economic policy has “absolutely nothing to do with canada’s current position,” as it is about as an unsubstantiated claim that anyone could make. Even if just because Mark Carney, the current Prime Minister of Canada, subscribes to neoliberal politics and has occupied positions of power both in the UK and Canada over the past two decades. You don’t know enough about this dude, ffs.
Like I said, nothing but hot air. The Avro Arrow fiasco sent a clear message to every University engineer and science grad, and every Canadian company. I know, I was there. We learned: Rule number one, your future is in America, Rule number two, if you think otherwise, see rule number one. The Canadian government will never stand behind you, it will always pull the plug. The last fifty years of public and economic policy may be as far back as your mind can grasp, and even longer than your memory can trace, but history and my memory go a lot further back than that. Fifty years isn’t even a life span.Neoliberalism is for children. Reality is for adults. History never falls into neat classifications and sound bites.
I don’t know why you’re being so self-righteous when you’re just another STEM unc who doesn’t know what they’re talking about and refuses to learn. Nothing about your behaviour says, “mature.”
You’ll learn what neoliberalism is in three years when your kids put you in a home.
When you decide to wear big-boy pants, then maybe we can have an intelligent adult conversation, but throwing insults and vitriol around just puts you in the same league as Trump.
Uhuh, Trump is when you use terms right then make fun of someone who won’t.