Today i learned that manjaro has, in parts, german roots and is maintained by a german company. For that i, as a german myself, want to strongly apologize in the name of the german people!!

  • hamsda@feddit.org
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    3 days ago

    They have had their fair share of (sometimes easily avoidable) fuck-ups.

    Stuff like:

    • letting their websites SSL certificate expire (multiple times)
    • telling users to set the date in their OS back to when the cert was still valid as a workaround
    • accidentally DDoS’ing the AUR (I think multiple times too?)
    • IIRC also some internal struggle about how to use the money donated to them

    Especially the SSL cert hurts. They cannot auto-renew their websites SSL cert (and didn’t seem to learn from their first mistake) and they want to maintain a linux distro?

    • Cambionn@feddit.nl
      12·
      3 days ago

      The “internal struggle” was actually related to the rest and (hopefully) sorted out the other issues.

      The tl;dr is that Manjaro was setup as a company with one owner who often didn’t do what he was supposed to and no one else had access to do it. This caused issues like the SSL stuff but also other things. Obviously this made quite some volunteers leave over time, but as the distro itself is actually quite nice also a bunch didn’t want to give up that easily. Those pretty much gave that one person the choice to transfer the distro to a new to-be-made non-profit (leaving only the commercial activities in the company) or they would leave (and likely fork it or something). He agreed and they’re now in the legal process of setting up the non-profit, where important things will not be in the hands of a single person.

      So all with all it was a bit messy, but it seems they got it sorted out now. That should also prevent issues like they’ve seen in the past. So with that I wouldn’t recommend against the distro. I still have it on some secundairy systems, where my main one (I need to say this naturally) got switched during the drama to run Arch (btw).

      You can read more here: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-2-0-manifesto/186171

      • ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org
        1·
        2 days ago

        When did all this unfold? Didn’t the cert expire again, like, yesterday? When will they switch leadership?

        • Cambionn@feddit.nl
          1·
          1 day ago

          I don’t work for Manjaro, so I don’t know more than the public info either. But I guess after all the legal stuff is settled? Last update they where in the final stages of setting up the non-profit. They need to finish that to be able to transfer ownership I’d suppose.

      • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        He agreed and they’re now in the legal process of setting up the non-profit

        Sort of. He said he was open to the general idea but raised a bunch of provisions and then ghosted everybody. I don’t think there’s been any further communication for the last few months.

        • Cambionn@feddit.nl
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          1 day ago

          If you check the link I posted (which is the non-discussion thread that explained the situation) it has the updates. Most come from dennis1248. On Matrix he also confirmed those are the latest updates, altrough that was a while back already. I don’t check that Matrix chat that often. So while the owner (Phil) hasn’t replied publicly since, there are updates from the people who started the manifest about what’s happening behind the scenes since.

          Last update I know of was the one late June, mentioning nearly finishing all the legal paperwork for setting up the non-profit entity (where they updated us before to take longer than expected due to the complexity of writing legal stuff taking longer than expected).

      • kik2civeswt1@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        What hardware and software do you use for this? I’ve been trying on and off for maybe a year trying to get an HP Reverb G2 working with envision/monado. My most recent struggles were with lining up build dependencies, like boost, cnmatrix, etc., which I chalked up to version incompatiblies between Manjaro/AUR.