• hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
    15·
    3 小時前

    Choose one:

    • a kick in the balls and a taco.
    • a kick in the balls, acid to the face, and shot in each leg.

    Both sidesists:

    See! See! They’re exactly the same! They’re both gonna kick us in the balls!

    • narwhal@mander.xyz
      2·
      19 分鐘前

      I think it would be more realistic like this.

      Choose one:

      • murder strangers and ignore you mostly.
      • murder strangers but kick you in the balls.

      Democrat voters:

      You are blind if you don’t see the difference.

    • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
      9·
      1 小時前

      Choose one:

      • a polite foreign child crusher
      • a rude foreign child crusher

      Libs:

      How dare you point out that polite people are crushing children? You must think I shouldn’t vote for anyone! It’s very important to never improve things, foreign children be damned!

      • hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
        5·
        1 小時前

        Not that it really matters, because I’m not a liberal, I’m a leftist, but I (and more importantly, my liberal friends) have no problem criticizing democrats for supporting Israel. So go ahead and point that out all you want. I’ll 100% agree with you that they are just as bad as republicans on that issue. The problem I have is when someone reduces the parties down to their stances on one single issue. (In case that wasn’t incredibly obvious from my first comment.)

        • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
          3·
          1 小時前

          The meme didn’t say they were the same, they said they both crush children. People gotta come with a list before it’s okay? Not great for memes.

          (It’s not just Palestinian children either btw)

          • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            45 分鐘前

            The meme heavily implies that the only difference is that one is polite and one is rude, which is not the only difference.

            They both operate the exact same Palestinian child crushing machine, but one also operates a number of additional child crushing machines. People didn’t support the lesser evil because they’re more polite, they do it to keep those additional child crushing machines from operating.

            • 挂路灯人@lemmy.ml
              4·
              37 分鐘前

              You think Palestine is the only Bi-partisan machine? You really need to open a history book. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Syria and all the rest are all bi-partisan.

            • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
              3·
              39 分鐘前

              I understand why people do it but what I don’t understand is why they are content to continue supporting any child crushing and discourage people from discussing it.

    • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
      7·
      3 小時前

      hmm, those both choices you laid out; how do the people outside your country get affected by these elections?

      • hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
        6·
        3 小時前

        Generally, much worse under republicans. Republicans like to start wars.

        • 挂路灯人@lemmy.ml
          12·
          2 小時前

          If you are saying this unironically you need to open a history book and look outside your bubble. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Haiti, former Yugoslavia, Sudan, Gaza, Vietnam, Dominican Republic, Somalia and many many more attacked and or destroyed under democrats.

        • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
          11·
          2 小時前

          Republicans like to start wars.

          Compared to Democrats? How? Libya, Syria and Yemen were attacked under a Democratic president. In fact, Kamala said that Iran is the greatest threat in the world.

          Or better yet, the escalation of the genocide under Joe Biden? The genocidal monster who loves “Israel” so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM

          Turns out, outside of Amerika; there is in fact not a single fucking difference between these 2 parties. All you care about is domestic affair concerning your treats. You don’t give a fuck about people outside your area.

          • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
            3·
            14 分鐘前

            Turns out, outside of Amerika; there is in fact not a single fucking difference between these 2 parties. All you care about is domestic affair concerning your treats. You don’t give a fuck about people outside your area.

            🫰🫰🫰(That’s snapping btw lol)

            Like I don’t even expect people to overthrow the government tomorrow or whatever. Shit’s scary, I get it. But like, it would be super cool if they could stop aggressively defending the child crushing in front of the world, on the internet. As a start.

          • hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
            2·
            1 小時前

            In my entire lifetime, only republicans have started wars, and only democrats have ended them. I’m almost 40.

            In fact, Kamala said that Iran is the greatest threat in the world.

            And Donald Trump started a war with them.

    • Salamence@mander.xyzOP
      4·
      2 小時前

      you didn’t even bait it

      Idk, looking at the votes and comments i think i bait it pretty good

  • jjj@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    6·
    4 小時前

    It’s not about voting for the lesser evil, but against the worse one. The way the United States is structured, which influences the way its people think about voting and vice versa, you are given only two options when voting for president:

    • Vote for the Democrat one
    • Vote for the Republican one

    But… you might think you’re clever and say “I should just vote for neither of them, nobody will stop me”. If your state has RCV then put your preferred candidate as a first pick and just place Democrat before Republican. Problem solved, no more strategic voting. Unfortunately, precious few states have adopted this for any elections, let alone the presidency.

    In states without RCV, there are 3 equivalent cases from your perspective:

    • Vote Republican: Increment their number by 1
      • Overall effect +1 for Republicans
    • Vote Democrat: Increment a threatening score by 1, thereby requiring Republicans to gain 1 more vote to win
      • Overall effect -1 for Republicans
    • Don’t vote or vote for a non threatening party/candidate
      • Overall effect 0 for Republicans

    Forgive me for assuming the reader wants to get Republicans (and Republican aligned Democrats) out of office. In this case, it is your responsibility to vote for the most threatening candidate. It’s a sick trick of game theory, which is why RCV is so important.

    • freagle@lemmy.mlEnglish
      13·
      3 小時前

      You really just gotta get out of the private space of who people vote for and do actual work that matters. Wasting your energy trying to get polite genocidaires elected is costing lives every day. You only have so much time. Vote the way you understand the system works, assume everyone else is as smart or smarter than you and they can figure out how to vote. And then spend the other 364 days of the year putting all this effort you want to put into vote mongering and put it into dismantling the orphan crushing machine.

      Because the way this works is that there’s an orphan crushing machine and there are two parties who take turns operating the orphan crushing machine and we need all the help we can get dismantling the orphan crushing machine.

      And when you spend all your effort screaming at the people who want to dismantle the orphan crushing machine that they should ALSO be sure they vote for the correct people to operate the orphan crushing machine, wait let me put it in your terms:

      If you help us dismantle the orphan crushing machine, that’s -1 for the orphan crushers and +1 for the people fighting the orphan crushers

      If you don’t help us dismantle the machine, that’s 0 for the orphan crushers

      If you consume time and energy from other people who would otherwise be convinced to help us dismantle the orphan crushing machine, that -1 or more for the people fighting the orphan crushers and +1 or more for the orphan crushers.

      It’s just the way game theory works out. Trust me. I’m a doctor of game theory.

      • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
        1·
        3 分鐘前

        Because the way this works is that there’s an orphan crushing machine and there are two parties who take turns operating the orphan crushing machine and we need all the help we can get dismantling the orphan crushing machine.

        Damn that’s 🔥