why not a genuine piece of pre-AI coding art like Windows Vista, Windows ME or the absolute pinacle of software: Slackware 9.1 before they switched to the awful X.org server from the beautiful XFree86?
FreeDOS actually does have an anti AI policy, at least when it comes to code commits: https://www.freedos.org/about/ai/ So you might be onto something here!
If you care about avoiding LLM code, all Linux is now poisoned.
How do you figure that?
Also, Torvalds isn’t reviewing every PR sitting there like, “yes how delicious this AI generated code is! I approve!” Believe it or not, tens of thousands of people run the Linux foundation project, not just him.
And let’s keep our heads squarely on our necks here, and remember what Torvalds actually said:
That just explains Torval’s attitude, which I just explained to you first (by the way) but it doesn’t explain your statement that “all of Linux is now poisoned“.
That’s gonna require a substantial amount more proof than a philosophical position taken by Linus Torvalds
(to be clear: I’m pretty anti AI myself, and I don’t agree with Torvalds position, and I’m definitely not arguing in Support of it)
I daily drive OpenBSD, I find it much better than my experience with FreeBSD. OpenBSD I feel has better wifi support, better VM support, and I found more of my devices worked on OpenBSD as opposed to FreeBSD (pair of USB Headphones I had just absolutely WOULD NOT work on FreeBSD, on OpenBSD it wasn’t an issue)
That being said OpenBSD’s policy on AI isn’t exactly clear yet. NetBSD however has straight up said no to AI.
The BSD’s are good, they’ve come a long way, but you can’t go into them thinking you’ll get a similar Linux up to date experience. the BSD’s are still a few years behind but if you’re going to try and make a switch I would suggest NetBSD or OpenBSD over FreeBSD. I might give NetBSD another go as I think I gave up on it last time because the install process annoyed me.
As long as many BSD developers (especial at FreeBSD, I think it’s a lesser degree with Net and Open) are Mac users who actively reject using any FOSS BSD on desktops/notebooks and only care about contributing regarding server stuff, this won’t change.
Guess it’s finally time to go all in on FreeBSD
FreeBSD is also slopped, sadly. https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/will-freebsd-adopt-a-no-ai-policy-or-such.100101/
We need to finish Hurd.
Patches welcome
Yeah, just as soon as i learn to code. Hurd needs users as well you know. We dont need an OS for engineers only.
why not a genuine piece of pre-AI coding art like Windows Vista, Windows ME or the absolute pinacle of software: Slackware 9.1 before they switched to the awful X.org server from the beautiful XFree86?
Fuck that, I’m going back to DOS.
FreeDOS actually does have an anti AI policy, at least when it comes to code commits: https://www.freedos.org/about/ai/ So you might be onto something here!
I’m going back to AmigaDOS.
Finally!
it’s the only way to be pure!
Maybe get an M2-series Mac and go all-in on Asahi Linux?
Or live the 90s dream with Haiku OS (they just released beta 6)?
The “never ai” list is getting pretty short
That’s still Linux with Torvalds-approved LLM generated code. If you care about avoiding LLM code, all Linux is now poisoned.
How do you figure that?
Also, Torvalds isn’t reviewing every PR sitting there like, “yes how delicious this AI generated code is! I approve!” Believe it or not, tens of thousands of people run the Linux foundation project, not just him.
And let’s keep our heads squarely on our necks here, and remember what Torvalds actually said:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Is-Not-Anti-AI
It’s literally spelled out in the submitted article as well as https://www.xda-developers.com/linus-torvalds-will-loudly-ignore-anyone-criticising-ai-code-in-linux-fork-it-or-just-walk-away/ which is prominently linked from that article. Read first, comment later, don’t downvote others just because you are wrong.
That just explains Torval’s attitude, which I just explained to you first (by the way) but it doesn’t explain your statement that “all of Linux is now poisoned“.
That’s gonna require a substantial amount more proof than a philosophical position taken by Linus Torvalds
(to be clear: I’m pretty anti AI myself, and I don’t agree with Torvalds position, and I’m definitely not arguing in Support of it)
“Linus Torvalds used AI to fix a Linux bug” <-- literally spelled out in the headline.
1600 commits contain the word “claude” alone: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Atorvalds%2Flinux+claude&type=commits
It’s so easy to find out, yet you insist that you are right. Hilarious.
The only thing that’s “hilarious“ here is how you’ve interpreted one thing to fit into your perception of another.
On the other hand, I find it rather sad, especially how, in a single sentence, you seem to see several things that just… aren’t there….
And I get the argument that you’re trying to make, but you’re making it very badly.
If you really think that FreeBSD whose developers often use Macs on desktop is any different, think again. Maybe OpenBSD but certainly not FreeBSD.
why not go full linux nutter and create TempleOS 2.0 ?
only hand made code that you yourself wrote, it’s the only way to be sure!
I daily drive OpenBSD, I find it much better than my experience with FreeBSD. OpenBSD I feel has better wifi support, better VM support, and I found more of my devices worked on OpenBSD as opposed to FreeBSD (pair of USB Headphones I had just absolutely WOULD NOT work on FreeBSD, on OpenBSD it wasn’t an issue)
That being said OpenBSD’s policy on AI isn’t exactly clear yet. NetBSD however has straight up said no to AI.
The BSD’s are good, they’ve come a long way, but you can’t go into them thinking you’ll get a similar Linux up to date experience. the BSD’s are still a few years behind but if you’re going to try and make a switch I would suggest NetBSD or OpenBSD over FreeBSD. I might give NetBSD another go as I think I gave up on it last time because the install process annoyed me.
As long as many BSD developers (especial at FreeBSD, I think it’s a lesser degree with Net and Open) are Mac users who actively reject using any FOSS BSD on desktops/notebooks and only care about contributing regarding server stuff, this won’t change.