You can’t really “change someone’s mind” unless they’re receptive to it. Quite often you’ll just end up in a situation where both parties are already hard set into their position; then they both enthusiastically repeat their best arguments and logic, while completely ignoring what the other person is saying. The hope is that there’s a magic combination of words that will trigger the incantation that changes the opposition’s mind. There usually isn’t.
As a thought experiment, if you wouldn’t be willing to “change teams” no matter what the other person says, they probably feel the same way towards you.
I have a family member who is an avid Pauline Hanson / Trump supporter; despite my reminders that those people hate me for who I am at a fundamental level and would see me suppressed, deported, begging on the streets, or worse. I’m “one of the good ones” you see, an exemption to patch over the cognitive dissonance. I would never support them, because it would be literal suicide to do so. I’m sure they have similarly strong opinions about my favourite progressive political parties.
That said, I don’t have a good actual solution, and at least arguing about things raises visibility and could sway undecided third parties. But at a certain point it becomes too exhausting to continue arguing all the time.
You can’t change someone’s mind without being willing to change your own.
I agree there are red lines however, but we have to learn to deal with our families and the reality is that parts of them will be right leaning.
When talking is possible, it is always valuable to share your perspective and listen to others’ (hate speech aside, no tolerance to that shit). This matters even if you don’t “change their minds” because it gives them feedback.
Humans are social animals. I know that people clowning on Trumpo is having an effect on the magats, even if they’re too dense to express it properly. No longer is the perception of Trumpo as that of a “strong man” it is one of a “shitclown with dementia”.
This is the result of a million opinions expressed socially.
Even the magats know this, they are coping, but they know their idol is a shetty man-baby-boy with dementia.
I just read up on Hansen and she is concerning. My argument is look at Trump: he hasn’t done anything to trans people yet. The law still protects trans rights. Maybe that’s why your family is not worried
Executive Order 14183, titled “Prioritizing Military Excellence and Readiness”, is an executive order issued by President Donald Trump on January 27, 2025, banning transgender people from military service.
Sure, he has been side tracked into other heinous shit since then but kicking them out of the military was one of the first things he did in office.
If anything he is protecting trans if you think about it. What trans person wants to serve under Trump anyway? I wish I was exempt from the upcoming draft That’s coming
You can’t really “change someone’s mind” unless they’re receptive to it. Quite often you’ll just end up in a situation where both parties are already hard set into their position; then they both enthusiastically repeat their best arguments and logic, while completely ignoring what the other person is saying. The hope is that there’s a magic combination of words that will trigger the incantation that changes the opposition’s mind. There usually isn’t.
As a thought experiment, if you wouldn’t be willing to “change teams” no matter what the other person says, they probably feel the same way towards you.
I have a family member who is an avid Pauline Hanson / Trump supporter; despite my reminders that those people hate me for who I am at a fundamental level and would see me suppressed, deported, begging on the streets, or worse. I’m “one of the good ones” you see, an exemption to patch over the cognitive dissonance. I would never support them, because it would be literal suicide to do so. I’m sure they have similarly strong opinions about my favourite progressive political parties.
That said, I don’t have a good actual solution, and at least arguing about things raises visibility and could sway undecided third parties. But at a certain point it becomes too exhausting to continue arguing all the time.
Yeah, but you can at least make other people less prone to fall for their bullshit
There are vulnerable people that might fall for their stupidity, so at least we must deny their nonsense so that fewer people fall for it.
You can’t change someone’s mind without being willing to change your own. I agree there are red lines however, but we have to learn to deal with our families and the reality is that parts of them will be right leaning. When talking is possible, it is always valuable to share your perspective and listen to others’ (hate speech aside, no tolerance to that shit). This matters even if you don’t “change their minds” because it gives them feedback.
Humans are social animals. I know that people clowning on Trumpo is having an effect on the magats, even if they’re too dense to express it properly. No longer is the perception of Trumpo as that of a “strong man” it is one of a “shitclown with dementia”. This is the result of a million opinions expressed socially. Even the magats know this, they are coping, but they know their idol is a shetty man-baby-boy with dementia.
I just read up on Hansen and she is concerning. My argument is look at Trump: he hasn’t done anything to trans people yet. The law still protects trans rights. Maybe that’s why your family is not worried
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14183
Sure, he has been side tracked into other heinous shit since then but kicking them out of the military was one of the first things he did in office.
If anything he is protecting trans if you think about it. What trans person wants to serve under Trump anyway? I wish I was exempt from the upcoming draft That’s coming