Demand does not necessarily be driven top-down. The same feedback systems that are in place under capitalism can be used under socialism as well.
Look at a supermarket chain for example. Supermarkets stack certain items, these items are bought, an electronic inventory system is aware of how much is stacked and updates as items are run through the checkout and leave the supermarket. Taking into account the latencies of the logistic system, new items are automatically ordered at the correct time when items run low.
Over time order numbers are optimized to prevent both scarcity and waste.
These are all technical problems that can be solved already right now that are completely orthogonal to the economic system. The only metric that is necessary is “demand”, which needs to be objectively measured.
The way i see the issue about quality is similar to others here. I think people want to do thinks well. The only reasons why people don’t do thinks well are:
a) Burnout. Lack of or insufficient recognition for the effort both intrinsic (telling yourself “what’s the point?”) and extrinsic (family, friends, colleagues and superiors don’t care and don’t give positive feedback)
b) Economic constraints. Superiors demand the MVP or actively demand cheaper materials/ cheaper build processes or enshitification to drive up profit margins.
Point a) is independent of the economical system and point b) is a direct result of capitalism.
I also don’t think that everything needs to be centrally planned. I like chinas decentralized approach where the further down the hierarchy you go, the more concrete and granular the plans become and some things aren’t planned at all but are fully delegated to markets.
This helped me, thanks.
I also think that a bottom-up drive of demand (vs top-down) might be more efficient in the end.
China has been mentioned a lot in this thread, I think that is a good example to take, to answer my question about viable alternatives that have been applied successfully.
Demand does not necessarily be driven top-down. The same feedback systems that are in place under capitalism can be used under socialism as well. Look at a supermarket chain for example. Supermarkets stack certain items, these items are bought, an electronic inventory system is aware of how much is stacked and updates as items are run through the checkout and leave the supermarket. Taking into account the latencies of the logistic system, new items are automatically ordered at the correct time when items run low. Over time order numbers are optimized to prevent both scarcity and waste.
These are all technical problems that can be solved already right now that are completely orthogonal to the economic system. The only metric that is necessary is “demand”, which needs to be objectively measured.
The way i see the issue about quality is similar to others here. I think people want to do thinks well. The only reasons why people don’t do thinks well are: a) Burnout. Lack of or insufficient recognition for the effort both intrinsic (telling yourself “what’s the point?”) and extrinsic (family, friends, colleagues and superiors don’t care and don’t give positive feedback) b) Economic constraints. Superiors demand the MVP or actively demand cheaper materials/ cheaper build processes or enshitification to drive up profit margins.
Point a) is independent of the economical system and point b) is a direct result of capitalism.
I also don’t think that everything needs to be centrally planned. I like chinas decentralized approach where the further down the hierarchy you go, the more concrete and granular the plans become and some things aren’t planned at all but are fully delegated to markets.
This helped me, thanks. I also think that a bottom-up drive of demand (vs top-down) might be more efficient in the end.
China has been mentioned a lot in this thread, I think that is a good example to take, to answer my question about viable alternatives that have been applied successfully.