I distinctly remember in November/ December of 2014, driving to work up a hill in the fog, and my partner and I listening to NPR on the way into the station, there being a segment about Hillary and their inevitability as the Democratic candidate. And I remember how in the conversation we had about it I brought up the point about how profoundly stupid and disastrous it would be to just coronation Hillary into being the nominee, because she was a profoundly weak candidate; maybe the weakest candidate possible for the moment.
First and foremost she’d telegraphed her run decades in advance, and had given the entire RW apparatus decades to prepare for her specific run. The opposition had been specifically preparing for this exact moment and if there was one person they were particularly prepared to run against, it was Hillary. Entire think tanks had been committed to that task for decades. It didn’t matter if anything they presented was true or not; they’d have clips to run for days.
Second, her performance as secretary of state had been poor. She’d pissed off both the RW and progressives with her performance, the only ones truly appeased by her being slop-eating liberals. She was a total hawk, and basically extended the international hegemony established under Cheney an additional 8 years. She had no friends with regards to her role in government.
The third was that the Obama administration had clearly failed in their ability to make their campaigned upon policies, at least the ones the base which thrust Obama into power had prioritized, into power. Obama won on the back of the Occupy movement and the spirit which led the broadening of Occupy was the same spirit that ushered Obama in. And Obama, in so many ways, had betrayed that spirit. They took the side of corporations and banks in the manner of their governance. So any candidate coming from that administration was going to struggle.
And finally, media appeared to be completely oblivious to all of this. There is a kind of “head permanently nestled in ones own ass”-ness that only NPR and those for whom that broadcast is tailored to, the true liberals, can demonstrate. And it was already on full display.
And let’s not forget that Hillary’s campaign promoted the dumbass as a viable candidate because she thought she’d be able to whip his ass no problem.
So thanks for giving us trump Hillary, I hope you’re happy with your choices. And given we knew they were friendly back in the day (and the fact she tanked a progressive candidate), I’m sure she is. Plus, trump fucking everything 6 ways from Sunday makes her husband’s awful choices seem downright normal.
I’ll never forget the day that primary happened. I worked right next to an NYC polling place. All day we had Bernie voters coming in complaining about how their voter registration had been mysteriously deleted, or had been changed back to an old address they had 9 years before, or some ridiculous shit like that. Believe whatever you want, but that election was shady as hell.
I honestly wasn’t super political before that, I barely knew who Sanders was, so it wasn’t like I had been following the primary election.
Trump was as much the conservatives being smart as it was dems being stupid. Putting Joe and Kamala up were also profoundly stupid decisions. Like can we not find anyone <80 who doesn’t have a sordid history?
Yes. Trump got fewer votes in 2016 than Romney did in 2012. If everyone who voted for Obama had showed up to vote for Clinton, Trump never would have won. I think it’s fair to say that Clinton lost that election more than Trump won it.
Trump isn’t very popular, and never has been. He got like 20% of eligible voters in '24. The Dems merely keep running even less popular candidates. Their entire platform in '24 was “hey at least we’re not that guy” and they still didn’t manage to distinguish themselves from him enough. Fundamentally, both the Dems and Reps are super out of touch with American voters as we actually exist. I think the Dems and Reps are far more similar to each other than they are to what most people in this country actually want.
I distinctly remember in November/ December of 2014, driving to work up a hill in the fog, and my partner and I listening to NPR on the way into the station, there being a segment about Hillary and their inevitability as the Democratic candidate. And I remember how in the conversation we had about it I brought up the point about how profoundly stupid and disastrous it would be to just coronation Hillary into being the nominee, because she was a profoundly weak candidate; maybe the weakest candidate possible for the moment.
First and foremost she’d telegraphed her run decades in advance, and had given the entire RW apparatus decades to prepare for her specific run. The opposition had been specifically preparing for this exact moment and if there was one person they were particularly prepared to run against, it was Hillary. Entire think tanks had been committed to that task for decades. It didn’t matter if anything they presented was true or not; they’d have clips to run for days.
Second, her performance as secretary of state had been poor. She’d pissed off both the RW and progressives with her performance, the only ones truly appeased by her being slop-eating liberals. She was a total hawk, and basically extended the international hegemony established under Cheney an additional 8 years. She had no friends with regards to her role in government.
The third was that the Obama administration had clearly failed in their ability to make their campaigned upon policies, at least the ones the base which thrust Obama into power had prioritized, into power. Obama won on the back of the Occupy movement and the spirit which led the broadening of Occupy was the same spirit that ushered Obama in. And Obama, in so many ways, had betrayed that spirit. They took the side of corporations and banks in the manner of their governance. So any candidate coming from that administration was going to struggle.
And finally, media appeared to be completely oblivious to all of this. There is a kind of “head permanently nestled in ones own ass”-ness that only NPR and those for whom that broadcast is tailored to, the true liberals, can demonstrate. And it was already on full display.
And let’s not forget that Hillary’s campaign promoted the dumbass as a viable candidate because she thought she’d be able to whip his ass no problem.
So thanks for giving us trump Hillary, I hope you’re happy with your choices. And given we knew they were friendly back in the day (and the fact she tanked a progressive candidate), I’m sure she is. Plus, trump fucking everything 6 ways from Sunday makes her husband’s awful choices seem downright normal.
“tanked a progressive candidate”…?
Bernie got fucked by the DNC for various reasons
Bernie lost by millions of primary votes. Bernie actually lost by a bigger margin to HRC than Trump lost the popular vote to her.
I’ll never forget the day that primary happened. I worked right next to an NYC polling place. All day we had Bernie voters coming in complaining about how their voter registration had been mysteriously deleted, or had been changed back to an old address they had 9 years before, or some ridiculous shit like that. Believe whatever you want, but that election was shady as hell.
I honestly wasn’t super political before that, I barely knew who Sanders was, so it wasn’t like I had been following the primary election.
Source Cited?
BTW more three times as many people participated in the 2016 DNC primary as the 2012 primary, and about the same number of people as the 2008 primary.
He also had several instances where he was mistreated by the DNC, regardless of the outcome
He was also invited to participate in the presidential primary for a party he was never even a part of.
That was the first time I ever donated to a campaign. It was Bernie’s campaign (and AI was a card carrying Republican).
Then I watched what Hillary’s campaign did and have refused to give any money to any campaign ever again.
That’s the only election I didn’t vote.
I have been voting Democrat down ticket ever since (as a protest vote) and wondering how the fuck everyone got so fucking stupid.
Fuck the money. We need to eat every fucking billionaire/mega millionaire. There is no other way.
They want to survive? They need to give their shit up and live like the rest of us
Trump was as much the conservatives being smart as it was dems being stupid. Putting Joe and Kamala up were also profoundly stupid decisions. Like can we not find anyone <80 who doesn’t have a sordid history?
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And even here at the left end of the internet, saying something so profoundly obvious outloud got you put on the naughty list.
Yes. Trump got fewer votes in 2016 than Romney did in 2012. If everyone who voted for Obama had showed up to vote for Clinton, Trump never would have won. I think it’s fair to say that Clinton lost that election more than Trump won it.
Trump isn’t very popular, and never has been. He got like 20% of eligible voters in '24. The Dems merely keep running even less popular candidates. Their entire platform in '24 was “hey at least we’re not that guy” and they still didn’t manage to distinguish themselves from him enough. Fundamentally, both the Dems and Reps are super out of touch with American voters as we actually exist. I think the Dems and Reps are far more similar to each other than they are to what most people in this country actually want.