Big Autos is bribing Congress to kill anything they deem as competition.
-Ftfy
You know, all the reasons I didn’t want a Chinese car are now also present in American cars…
We need to start raiding junkyards for old cars, and working on making electric conversions without corporate cloud connections and integrated spyware more accessible.
Or, and hear me out on this, push our useless elected officials to fucking do something for the people instead of the highest bidder.
They’re all bought, pushing them only gets pointless promises during campaigns that will be ignored as soon as they get your vote.
Whether it’s a pedophile MAGAt, or that piece of shit Jeffries, they’re all a joke…
And it’s not funny.
Thats because people only vote for one of two parties therefore neither party needs to do anything to secure their votes. All they have to do is convince you that the other party is/would be worse rather than actually doing things that benefit people or have a real impact.
We need universal ranked choice voting.
Or at least people showing up to the PRIMARIES and kicking these pieces of shit out before they become the DNC annointed one.
US can ban Chinese cars from the US market. But all other markets are still lost.
Just call it “planet america” and you’ll be fine. It just works…
I paid a 15% baked in tariff on my non us manufactured electric car. Worth every penny.
GM has never made a good car. Ford forgot they are a car company. Fuck em all.
Ford’s CEO thinks they are off-road Porsche. Delusional all around.
LOL, capitalism my ass.
The free market is when you jam your invisible hand on the lobbying scale, right?
They can push laws rapidly when they want to (i.e., being paid by lobbyists), but when it comes to picking up rubbish, making the water drinkable, or holding pedo billionaires accountable, suddenly the gears of government are slow and need thorough “debate”.
Right? These cunts love to tell us of the benefits of capitalism and the free market such as lower prices from competition driving the market, but then they cut off said competition that is not in their price fixing enshitification club. Can’t wait for them to tell us we do not own the vehicles we purchase because the software on them is a license. Basically like a mobile phone or a console.
It makes sense. The investment in and development of EVs and EV manufacturing has been fully kneecapped by the American auto and oil industries.
If China came in, the American auto industry would be destroyed overnight due to the lack of competitive vehicles.
The propaganda of “Chinese vehicles are cheap and dangerous” only works when people don’t have the product in front of them.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-jim-farley-xiaomi-tesla-chinese-ev-2026-4?op=1
I live in a country with Chinese vehicles, and I would say that they were, initially, a bit crappy, a little less technically safe but cheaper.
Now though they’re pretty much even, especially BYD.
This is the confident opinion of one who has never owned a Chinese vehicle!
The propaganda of “Chinese vehicles are cheap and dangerous” only works when people don’t have the product in front of them.
Plus they’d have to pass whatever requirements in the US to be sold, the same ones that the ‘domestic’ manufacturers do.
Is this even a concern anymore? Haven’t we pretty much gutted any requirements that would actually matter / wouldn’t already exist in Chinese cars?
There are some American safety requirements that are based on protecting the safety of the driver at the expense of everything else that cheaper vehicles might not meet.
Could you give us some examples?
One example is a strong A-Pillar on a car–the metal post to the left and right of the windshield. Most manufacturers meet the standard by making it really beefy and wide. It protects the driver from collision but makes collision more likely by obstructing the driver’s vision.
Car safety standards in the US are actively hostile to anyone outside a car.
Let’s do that imo
They only want free markets when it benefits them.
Sort of like socialism
“Them” is different in the two cases. In this case it’s to benefit a few oligarchs. In the case of socialism it’s to benefit the general public.
In other news, Coke asks Congress to ban Pepsi.
I ask congress to ban congress. Anarchy is preferable to fascism.
chicken tax 2.0
you will buy your 90% markup unrepairable slop cars and learn to like it
Are the Chinese EVs repairable though? And what I’ve seen of them is a bunch of gimmicky features that I don’t want.
Try repairing any modern car. Try repairing a six year old car. Without the proprietary software to interface with the car computers, there aren’t a lot.of repairs you can do on your own.
I have a 19 Volvo and a 13 Volvo. You can’t do much of anything to either without the software and a cryptographic PIN that locks the central electronics module. The only way you can access the cem is buy “renting” Volvo software. Even then, they charge for individual transactions. Want to make a key for your car? Pay for the software then pay another $250 for access to the key making module. BTW, that only permits you to make ONE key.
You’ve been locked out of your own cars for a long time now. More and more goes behind the dealer paywall over time.
Exactly.
Do the Chinese make a car that’s not like that?
They are in the way that you can purchase the parts for them from sources including the manufacturer, but also third parties. Until I have that I will not be buying EV in the US. If that expands to ICE vehicles then I will not purchase those either.
That’s at least better than modern US cars.
Still don’t want all the crazy electronics that are gonna break.
It’s better than many US cars yeah, but not most ICE cars currently on the road today. Most ICE vehicles can have a vast majority of their internal components replaced with a stop to advanced auto parts or a specialist store to buy things like an ECU. Not with Tesla however or pretty much any EV we can get here. So for EV cars here yeah that’s absolutely better than any we have here.
lmao
Save their asses again, taxpayers
Eventually the US auto market will be eaten alive. Lower cost vehicles cannibalize US manufacturers revenue and their business model requires large revenues, even when profits are low or nill.
The reason to be concerned is Chinese vehicles are equipped with all the sensors necessary for a distributed spy network. I don’t think there’s any way to guarantee data stays in the US. Chevy, Ford, etc will use this for reason to not change, given the government has an interest in keeping out Chinese vehicles.
The domestic automakers all have the same shit. Why would the Chinese go to all the trouble to build and sell cars here to run espionage, when they can just compromise a prebuilt distributed mobile camera and microphone service (aka all modern cars)?
I’m more okay with China spying on me than US companies. China doesn’t really have a way or motive to effect my life.
They (say they are) are worried about national security. Like they don’t want it being able to somehow map all military bases or whatever.
That’s really a tall tale they are trying to sell though.
They don’t want a cheap competitor in the American markets and they don’t have a guarantee that Chinese companies will hand over data on a whim the way they can force American manufacturers to do.
At this point, the current clown government has been hacked by every adversary America has due to the gutting of all the people who managed opsec… wouldn’t really make much difference if Chinese EVs were sold here. Just don’t allow them on military bases is all you have to do.
wtf! their party is supposed to be all about capitalism and globalism.
Bruh. Where have you been?
yeah I know I should know but they just keep on beating their dead sacred cows.
What is stopping someone from flying to mexico, buying an EV there, and driving it back and getting it registered?
Some states may have safety regs, but some mid-america states don’t seem to give a shit about what you drive where.You would have to pay the 100% tarriff on a Chinese EV because you’d be “importing” it. You likely wouldn’t be able to register it in any state without proving the import duty had been paid.
And assuming you flew under the radar and somehow registered it without paying, the Feds would get access to the registration records and the CBP would eventually come after you.
Registration. If they haven’t gone through all the National Highway Safety Administration tests, it’s not able to be registered (or was a while ago, I haven’t kept up). A couple of decades ago, there was a billionaire who bought a couple extra supercars and had them destroyed by testing, so that his would be road-legal.
I thought BYD was already banned from selling cars in the USA? Am I allowed to buy a BYD???
