What I meant was that the total number of people in prison/jails anywhere in US, charged sentenced or otherwise could easily have been 5.5 million. I have no idea where the meme op posted got its statistic, but the dbzero person in this thread is fixated on only the people that were sentenced that year, not people that were actually imprisoned during that year regardless of date of sentencing.
I think we are talking past each other. The total number of prisoners is a very different number than the number of people just sentenced in that year. That is all I was trying to distinguish. The total number of people in prison that year does not include the additional number of people held in county jails etc. in that year if it only tabulates those in actual prison. So the ~1.1m is still going to be lower than the number of people at any time imprisoned. It really doesn’t matter much anyway that person is a reactionary asshole and I am peacing out of this thread.
I think what made it difficult to understand is that “sentenced” also means someone getting sent to jail, so I assumed you were talking about people getting sent to jail (unless you were?)
Sent to jail doesn’t necessarily mean sentenced, it doesn’t even mean charged or had a trial. Prison is where you go after trial, jail is where you go after an arrest. Lots of people get locked up even for long stretches without even being formally charged. Anyone placed in jail or prison is a prisoner and incarcerated. Imprisoned doesn’t necessarily mean tried or sentenced, just jailed. One can be arrested and imprisoned without ever being charged with anything. It’s actually super common in the US.
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What I meant was that the total number of people in prison/jails anywhere in US, charged sentenced or otherwise could easily have been 5.5 million. I have no idea where the meme op posted got its statistic, but the dbzero person in this thread is fixated on only the people that were sentenced that year, not people that were actually imprisoned during that year regardless of date of sentencing.
My quoting is from the dbzero persons PDF
I think we are talking past each other. The total number of prisoners is a very different number than the number of people just sentenced in that year. That is all I was trying to distinguish. The total number of people in prison that year does not include the additional number of people held in county jails etc. in that year if it only tabulates those in actual prison. So the ~1.1m is still going to be lower than the number of people at any time imprisoned. It really doesn’t matter much anyway that person is a reactionary asshole and I am peacing out of this thread.
I think what made it difficult to understand is that “sentenced” also means someone getting sent to jail, so I assumed you were talking about people getting sent to jail (unless you were?)
Sent to jail doesn’t necessarily mean sentenced, it doesn’t even mean charged or had a trial. Prison is where you go after trial, jail is where you go after an arrest. Lots of people get locked up even for long stretches without even being formally charged. Anyone placed in jail or prison is a prisoner and incarcerated. Imprisoned doesn’t necessarily mean tried or sentenced, just jailed. One can be arrested and imprisoned without ever being charged with anything. It’s actually super common in the US.