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  • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
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    8 days ago

    Also by Marxist definition, at least according to MLs single party dictatorships that concentrate power in a ruling elite while giving workers shitty employment conditions are supposedly dictatorships of the proletariat when they are far from it.

    they disagree that it’s the states giving them shitty employment conditions, and disagree that power is being concentrated in a ruling elite, you’d just have to demonstrate these two things to them.

    And my point is that MLs spout a lot of BS about countries that often have better conditions for workers than supposed socialist states.

    they believe this is because the material conditions allowed for those advances and didn’t allow for them in socialist states for various reasons outside of state control, ex: the embargo on cuba.

    • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.orgMEnglish
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      7 days ago

      Which doesn’t make sense since material conditions aren’t an excuse to not give workers rights. Like Yugoslavia wasn’t necessarily wealthy when they gave their workers control over their own workplaces.