• GonzoAtBarstow@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    8+ billion people on the planet and people complain about not enough people.

    Ponzi schemes aren’t sustainable.

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      Worry about population decline isn’t about wanting more people. It’s about wanting there to be enough working-age people to cover the retirement and medical payments of the ones no longer working. We know exactly how many 30-year-olds we’ll have in 20 years and it’s simply not enough. Something has to give and usually the first to go is the benefits for the people who most need them.

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          I highly doubt that would be anywhere near enough even if the issue was only limited to the country with the highest number of ultra wealthy people which it isn’t.

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      Yeah, people worried about “population decline” are actually concerned about their preferred race/religion losing political & cultural power.

      It’s a dog whistle every time

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        It’s a dog whistle every time.

        Population decline isn’t inherently a problem (unless you’re a racist worried about “your people” losing power). Too rapid population decline is a big problem. We’re already seeing the effects: When the sum of birth rates and working-age immigration fall fast enough, the ratio of working-age people to care-needing people also falls. I don’t think I need to explain why it’s a problem that every able-bodied working age adult will be responsible (directly or indirectly) for taking care of more people. It puts more pressure on everyone, and impacts societies ability to care for those in need of it.

        A controlled, slow, population decline would probably just be a good thing at this point. However, that’s not what prognoses are pointing towards, and that’s why (non-racist) people are worried.

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        Why would I care about how many people are the same race as me? It could only be a problem if you keep racism.