I have no idea what there is not to understand about this…and why it’s mostly men complaining about “protecting women’s spaces”, lol.

This might upset some people, and you know what? Good.
If this upsets you, at least the others will know and the trash can take itself out.

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    One of the things that scares me about the bathroom ban is now cis male predators can enter bathrooms saying they’re trans men. If we just play the numbers… there’s way more men than trans people. The risk is greater.

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        Never forget that transphobes targeted a cis woman, Imane Khelif, who won gold at the Olympics. Many of the more prominent ones stand by their bullying years after.

        It’s always been about making women they view as lesser suffer.

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          I’m 6 foot with PCOS, I’m a target too, I won’t forget. We need to shame these people in public for all the lives they’ve ruined.

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      Exactly. This stuff is terrifying. These bans really don’t “protect” anyone. It’s almost like protection isn’t the point…

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        look at how the SAME people who are viruently transphobic and pushing the “protect women” stuff are also either silent or outright defending both the cornell 7 or defending the cis guy disrupting the wnba

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          Yes. This is so true it hurts…
          Fuck anyone who defends any kind of rape. I hate that with a burning fucking passion. The victim is NEVER to blame, no matter fucking what. It’s always the rapist’s fault. And it’s scary that some people don’t understand that…
          Fuck this world.

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          Those defending the guys are the tame ones sadly. It’s the true nightmares putting out death threats the the VICTIM. Tough to be fair, I’m sure that Venn diagram is basically one circle.

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        It never was.

        Always just enforcing gender norms that put these loud and proud transphobes on the top of some mythical societal ladder that doesn’t involve the Epstein class lording over us all.

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      This sounds absurd on the face of it.

      Then I think about how awful these loud and proud transphobes are, and then I’m just sad realizing there’s WAY more than a non-zero chance of them patrolling bathrooms in their zealous crusade. Or just to use it as an excuse to assault women.

      Fuck.

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        This is not a probabilities issue. There have been a number of incidents, and they all follow the same pattern:

        It is the transphobes who follow around actual or imagined trans people around malls, and confront them even nowhere near toilets. They tend to say “I will prevent you from going into a female bathroom, to protect women and children”. Then they text their friends and soon there is a number of people surrounding outnumbered trans people.

        There have been beatings like this, in one case they even charged the trans person. It seems they had the original perpetrator on paper but as soon as they found out the victim was trans they struck through the name and charged the trans person instead.

        I won’t go into how the current situation in the US waters down the right of self defense for trans people, because it wasn’t the original topic. But it happens. About your actual point: pogroms will now be an everyday reality in the US, to the surprise of none.

        Transphobes and their centrist enablers are criminals. Genocide perpetrators more specifically. They aren’t innocent or misled. We all got the same lesson that scapegoating leads to pogroms and genocide. They just hate trans people enough they don’t care to be nazis.

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          To be clear, I am not surprised and know of far too many such incidents of transphobes either harassing women near/at/in restrooms and trans women being arrested for self defense in cases where they CLEARLY were the victim.

          Pogroms will happens. Giant piece of shit Martin Niemöller mentions trade unionists and Jews in his poem, but nary a thought for trans victims of the nazis… one of the earliest groups targeted.

          It’s not IF they come for our trans brothers and sisters, but when.

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      And of course, if you look even sliiiightly imperfect compared their to their AI-generated version of what women should be, the MAGA crowd will be harassing you on your way to the bathroom as well.

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      No, trans men face harassment too. This narrative is completely made up. No trans person imposes themselves onto a public bathroom before they get mocked at the birth-sex bathroom.

      So I was saying trans men face harassment too, and this is because they don’t want AFAB to transition into men. It waters down their fantasized supremacy, shrinks the dating pool for incels, and takes a number of wombs out of the production of new slaves and soldiers.

      The narrative also helps to bully non-traditional women too, so there is no logic in it save male supremacy. It seems deceptively centrist and palatable because they poured billions on propaganda research to get it right, but there is not an iota in this narrative that isn’t carefully designed to install male chauvinist dictatorship.

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        I understand the desire to slot this into some uber-conspiracy, but I think it really is as simple as “This minority group is already feared and misunderstood; let’s use them as a wedge issue to get elected so that we can give more tax cuts to rich people.”

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          This take is naive to say the least, if not blatantly malicious. There is years of data that this is a well funded operation, well known to every trans person that used the internet anytime in the past decade. And I won’t reply to your shitpost any further, I just don’t want fallacies like this go unanswered.

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            There is years of data that this is a well funded operation

            Yeah, no shit. What I was talking about is stuff like this:

            It waters down their fantasized supremacy, shrinks the dating pool for incels, and takes a number of wombs out of the production of new slaves and soldiers.

            which would make a great shitpost, actually, but apparently you’re serious.

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      Nah the bathroom invaders will just barge in with a MAGA hat, no gender laundering required. Do you feel safe yet.